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āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļˆāļąāļ”āļ—āļģāđ‚āļ”āļĒ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ—āļąāđ‰āļ‡āļŦāļĄāļ” āļĢāļ§āļĄāļ–āļķāļ‡āļ•āļ­āļ™ āļāļĢāļēāļŸāļīāļ āđāļĨāļ°āļ„āļģāļ­āļ˜āļīāļšāļēāļĒāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļāļēāļĢāļ­āļąāļ›āđ‚āļŦāļĨāļ”āđāļĨāļ°āļˆāļąāļ”āļŦāļēāđƒāļŦāđ‰āđ‚āļ”āļĒāļ•āļĢāļ‡āļˆāļēāļ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āļŦāļĢāļ·āļ­āļžāļąāļ™āļ˜āļĄāļīāļ•āļĢāđāļžāļĨāļ•āļŸāļ­āļĢāđŒāļĄāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļžāļ§āļāđ€āļ‚āļē āļŦāļēāļāļ„āļļāļ“āđ€āļŠāļ·āđˆāļ­āļ§āđˆāļēāļĄāļĩāļšāļļāļ„āļ„āļĨāļ­āļ·āđˆāļ™āđƒāļŠāđ‰āļ‡āļēāļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāļĄāļĩāļĨāļīāļ‚āļŠāļīāļ—āļ˜āļīāđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļ„āļļāļ“āđ‚āļ”āļĒāđ„āļĄāđˆāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļ­āļ™āļļāļāļēāļ• āļ„āļļāļ“āļŠāļēāļĄāļēāļĢāļ–āļ›āļāļīāļšāļąāļ•āļīāļ•āļēāļĄāļ‚āļąāđ‰āļ™āļ•āļ­āļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāđāļŠāļ”āļ‡āđ„āļ§āđ‰āļ—āļĩāđˆāļ™āļĩāđˆ https://th.player.fm/legal
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āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļˆāļąāļ”āļ—āļģāđ‚āļ”āļĒ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ—āļąāđ‰āļ‡āļŦāļĄāļ” āļĢāļ§āļĄāļ–āļķāļ‡āļ•āļ­āļ™ āļāļĢāļēāļŸāļīāļ āđāļĨāļ°āļ„āļģāļ­āļ˜āļīāļšāļēāļĒāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļāļēāļĢāļ­āļąāļ›āđ‚āļŦāļĨāļ”āđāļĨāļ°āļˆāļąāļ”āļŦāļēāđƒāļŦāđ‰āđ‚āļ”āļĒāļ•āļĢāļ‡āļˆāļēāļ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āļŦāļĢāļ·āļ­āļžāļąāļ™āļ˜āļĄāļīāļ•āļĢāđāļžāļĨāļ•āļŸāļ­āļĢāđŒāļĄāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļžāļ§āļāđ€āļ‚āļē āļŦāļēāļāļ„āļļāļ“āđ€āļŠāļ·āđˆāļ­āļ§āđˆāļēāļĄāļĩāļšāļļāļ„āļ„āļĨāļ­āļ·āđˆāļ™āđƒāļŠāđ‰āļ‡āļēāļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāļĄāļĩāļĨāļīāļ‚āļŠāļīāļ—āļ˜āļīāđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļ„āļļāļ“āđ‚āļ”āļĒāđ„āļĄāđˆāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļ­āļ™āļļāļāļēāļ• āļ„āļļāļ“āļŠāļēāļĄāļēāļĢāļ–āļ›āļāļīāļšāļąāļ•āļīāļ•āļēāļĄāļ‚āļąāđ‰āļ™āļ•āļ­āļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāđāļŠāļ”āļ‡āđ„āļ§āđ‰āļ—āļĩāđˆāļ™āļĩāđˆ https://th.player.fm/legal

https://page2pod.com - In episode #81 of the Page 2 Podcast, Jon Clark and Joe DeVita sit down with John Shehata—former SEO lead at Disney & Conde Nast and creator of NewzDash/GDdash—to unpack how AI and Google Discover are rewriting the rules of news distribution.

John shares his unique journey from developer to news SEO expert and SaaS founder, diving into how AI, LLMs, and Google Discover are upending everything we know about news visibility.

He reveals why keywords are becoming less relevant, how Google’s personalization and categorization engines actually work, and what publishers must do to survive—and thrive—in this rapidly evolving ecosystem.

Tune in for actionable strategies on paywalls, content refreshing, newsletter growth, and building AI-resilient newsrooms.

🐍 In This Episode

  • Why Google Discover now drives 65–70% of news traffic—surpassing search
  • How AI Overviews & LLMs answer queries before users even click headlines
  • The rise of entity & category optimization over legacy keyword targeting
  • Data-backed tactics for refreshing evergreen content & choosing which URLs to consolidate
  • Smart paywall strategies: teaser experiences, email-gate funnels & dynamic messaging
  • Building newsletters, apps & tokenized models to future-proof publisher revenue
  • A preview of NESS Conference 2025—meet the industry’s top AI & news experts

This is a must-listen for newsrooms, digital marketers, and SEO professionals navigating the shifting landscape of search, traffic, and monetization.

📎 Mentioned Links & Resources:

Sponsored by Moving Traffic Media

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āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļˆāļąāļ”āļ—āļģāđ‚āļ”āļĒ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ—āļąāđ‰āļ‡āļŦāļĄāļ” āļĢāļ§āļĄāļ–āļķāļ‡āļ•āļ­āļ™ āļāļĢāļēāļŸāļīāļ āđāļĨāļ°āļ„āļģāļ­āļ˜āļīāļšāļēāļĒāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļāļēāļĢāļ­āļąāļ›āđ‚āļŦāļĨāļ”āđāļĨāļ°āļˆāļąāļ”āļŦāļēāđƒāļŦāđ‰āđ‚āļ”āļĒāļ•āļĢāļ‡āļˆāļēāļ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āļŦāļĢāļ·āļ­āļžāļąāļ™āļ˜āļĄāļīāļ•āļĢāđāļžāļĨāļ•āļŸāļ­āļĢāđŒāļĄāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļžāļ§āļāđ€āļ‚āļē āļŦāļēāļāļ„āļļāļ“āđ€āļŠāļ·āđˆāļ­āļ§āđˆāļēāļĄāļĩāļšāļļāļ„āļ„āļĨāļ­āļ·āđˆāļ™āđƒāļŠāđ‰āļ‡āļēāļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāļĄāļĩāļĨāļīāļ‚āļŠāļīāļ—āļ˜āļīāđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļ„āļļāļ“āđ‚āļ”āļĒāđ„āļĄāđˆāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļ­āļ™āļļāļāļēāļ• āļ„āļļāļ“āļŠāļēāļĄāļēāļĢāļ–āļ›āļāļīāļšāļąāļ•āļīāļ•āļēāļĄāļ‚āļąāđ‰āļ™āļ•āļ­āļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāđāļŠāļ”āļ‡āđ„āļ§āđ‰āļ—āļĩāđˆāļ™āļĩāđˆ https://th.player.fm/legal

https://page2pod.com - In episode #81 of the Page 2 Podcast, Jon Clark and Joe DeVita sit down with John Shehata—former SEO lead at Disney & Conde Nast and creator of NewzDash/GDdash—to unpack how AI and Google Discover are rewriting the rules of news distribution.

John shares his unique journey from developer to news SEO expert and SaaS founder, diving into how AI, LLMs, and Google Discover are upending everything we know about news visibility.

He reveals why keywords are becoming less relevant, how Google’s personalization and categorization engines actually work, and what publishers must do to survive—and thrive—in this rapidly evolving ecosystem.

Tune in for actionable strategies on paywalls, content refreshing, newsletter growth, and building AI-resilient newsrooms.

🐍 In This Episode

  • Why Google Discover now drives 65–70% of news traffic—surpassing search
  • How AI Overviews & LLMs answer queries before users even click headlines
  • The rise of entity & category optimization over legacy keyword targeting
  • Data-backed tactics for refreshing evergreen content & choosing which URLs to consolidate
  • Smart paywall strategies: teaser experiences, email-gate funnels & dynamic messaging
  • Building newsletters, apps & tokenized models to future-proof publisher revenue
  • A preview of NESS Conference 2025—meet the industry’s top AI & news experts

This is a must-listen for newsrooms, digital marketers, and SEO professionals navigating the shifting landscape of search, traffic, and monetization.

📎 Mentioned Links & Resources:

Sponsored by Moving Traffic Media

Follow the Page 2 Podcast

Follow Jon Clark

  continue reading

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