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🚀 Kevin Indig on SEO Testing, Zero-Based Strategy & Scaling SEO at Shopify | Episode #72

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āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļˆāļąāļ”āļ—āļģāđ‚āļ”āļĒ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āđ€āļ™āļ·āđ‰āļ­āļŦāļēāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ—āļąāđ‰āļ‡āļŦāļĄāļ” āļĢāļ§āļĄāļ–āļķāļ‡āļ•āļ­āļ™ āļāļĢāļēāļŸāļīāļ āđāļĨāļ°āļ„āļģāļ­āļ˜āļīāļšāļēāļĒāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļāļēāļĢāļ­āļąāļ›āđ‚āļŦāļĨāļ”āđāļĨāļ°āļˆāļąāļ”āļŦāļēāđƒāļŦāđ‰āđ‚āļ”āļĒāļ•āļĢāļ‡āļˆāļēāļ Jon Clark and Joe DeVita āļŦāļĢāļ·āļ­āļžāļąāļ™āļ˜āļĄāļīāļ•āļĢāđāļžāļĨāļ•āļŸāļ­āļĢāđŒāļĄāļžāļ­āļ”āđāļ„āļŠāļ•āđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļžāļ§āļāđ€āļ‚āļē āļŦāļēāļāļ„āļļāļ“āđ€āļŠāļ·āđˆāļ­āļ§āđˆāļēāļĄāļĩāļšāļļāļ„āļ„āļĨāļ­āļ·āđˆāļ™āđƒāļŠāđ‰āļ‡āļēāļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāļĄāļĩāļĨāļīāļ‚āļŠāļīāļ—āļ˜āļīāđŒāļ‚āļ­āļ‡āļ„āļļāļ“āđ‚āļ”āļĒāđ„āļĄāđˆāđ„āļ”āđ‰āļĢāļąāļšāļ­āļ™āļļāļāļēāļ• āļ„āļļāļ“āļŠāļēāļĄāļēāļĢāļ–āļ›āļāļīāļšāļąāļ•āļīāļ•āļēāļĄāļ‚āļąāđ‰āļ™āļ•āļ­āļ™āļ—āļĩāđˆāđāļŠāļ”āļ‡āđ„āļ§āđ‰āļ—āļĩāđˆāļ™āļĩāđˆ https://th.player.fm/legal

In Episode 72 of the Page 2 Podcast, we sit down with Kevin Indig, Director of SEO at Shopify and host of the TechBound podcast. From building gaming websites as a teen to leading SEO at companies like Atlassian, G2, and now Shopify, Kevin's career is a blueprint for modern SEO leadership.

In this episode, he introduces his concept of "Zero-Based SEO," a mindset shift that encourages testing everything from scratch—title tags to templates—to drive scalable, data-backed growth. We also explore the evolution of SEO careers, agency vs. in-house life, and building SEO experimentation frameworks that actually get things done.

🧊 In this episode:
â€Ē Kevin’s journey from gamer kid in Germany to SEO leader at Shopify
â€Ē Lessons learned from Atlassian, G2, and DailyMotion
â€Ē What "Zero-Based SEO" really means—and why it matters now
â€Ē Testing frameworks and tools for SEO experimentation
â€Ē Why robust testing is essential for modern enterprise SEO
â€Ē The challenges of implementation and developer collaboration
â€Ē How to scale SEO across large teams and product orgs
â€Ē Podcasting vs. writing: how Kevin creates content at scale
â€Ē How to fight burnout, prioritize your time, and build systems
â€Ē The future of data-driven SEO and what SEOs can learn from medicine

This episode is packed with career insights, innovative thinking, and tactical SEO approaches for growth-stage and enterprise teams alike.

👉 Subscribe for more expert SEO strategies and industry leader interviews!

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In Episode 72 of the Page 2 Podcast, we sit down with Kevin Indig, Director of SEO at Shopify and host of the TechBound podcast. From building gaming websites as a teen to leading SEO at companies like Atlassian, G2, and now Shopify, Kevin's career is a blueprint for modern SEO leadership.

In this episode, he introduces his concept of "Zero-Based SEO," a mindset shift that encourages testing everything from scratch—title tags to templates—to drive scalable, data-backed growth. We also explore the evolution of SEO careers, agency vs. in-house life, and building SEO experimentation frameworks that actually get things done.

🧊 In this episode:
â€Ē Kevin’s journey from gamer kid in Germany to SEO leader at Shopify
â€Ē Lessons learned from Atlassian, G2, and DailyMotion
â€Ē What "Zero-Based SEO" really means—and why it matters now
â€Ē Testing frameworks and tools for SEO experimentation
â€Ē Why robust testing is essential for modern enterprise SEO
â€Ē The challenges of implementation and developer collaboration
â€Ē How to scale SEO across large teams and product orgs
â€Ē Podcasting vs. writing: how Kevin creates content at scale
â€Ē How to fight burnout, prioritize your time, and build systems
â€Ē The future of data-driven SEO and what SEOs can learn from medicine

This episode is packed with career insights, innovative thinking, and tactical SEO approaches for growth-stage and enterprise teams alike.

👉 Subscribe for more expert SEO strategies and industry leader interviews!

Sponsored by Moving Traffic Media

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