S4 Ep4: We are in the kitchen with Mick McCarthy and off to league newcomers, Sutton United to catch up with Matt Gray.

The Official EFL Podcast

This week Clem caught up with Cardiff City manager Mick McCarthy to chat about his legendary career over pie & mash and as Sutton United prepare for their first ever league game, we caught up with their manager, Matt Gray to find out a bit more about the league's newcomers.