On October 12, 1990, Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks published his first memo to clients. In the decades since, he has periodically released memos reflecting his viewpoint on the investment landscape, as well as more general business insights. On this podcast we'll hear the latest memos by Howard, released in tandem with or shortly after their publication.
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The Insight by Oaktree Capital lets you know what Oaktree leaders think are the most important things for investors to focus on today. The Insight provides you with audio versions of many popular Oaktree publications so that you can learn about trends impacting a wide variety of asset classes. And it features conversations with many of Oaktree’s leading experts, including Howard Marks, about relative value, investment theory, and the market environment. The Insight goes beyond today’s market ...
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Discover how investment organizations are run from the industry’s top operating partners. We dive into the business of investment management by exploring functional areas across operations, investor relations, legal, finance, and technology. Key stakeholders provide insight on the business today and look to what the future may hold for capital allocators and their investment partners. Longtime operator, Scott MacDonald, hosts in-depth interviews with key non-investment principals across publ ...
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Jim La Creta, CTO – Brandeis University (EP.36)
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Jim La Creta is the Chief Technology and Information Officer for Brandeis University. Jim shares a fascinating and different perspective on technology for an investment office and university broadly. We discuss his career path at Brandeis which started at the help desk 21 years ago to the CTO seat. He shares how he partners with the investment comm…
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Behind The Memo: The Impact of Debt with Howard Marks and Morgan Housel
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In this special episode of Behind the Memo, Howard Marks is joined by Morgan Housel, the bestselling author and partner at the Collaborative Fund. They discuss ideas from Howard’s recent memo “The Impact of Debt,” which was inspired by Morgan’s article “How I Think About Debt.” They explore the relationship between leverage and longevity, the natur…
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In his latest memo, Howard Marks discusses the reasons for the recent market volatility using one of finance’s classic metaphors: Mr. Market, the figure Benjamin Graham created in 1949 to explain the erratic nature of financial markets. Howard pulls together some of his best writing on investor psychology from the past three decades, adds some of h…
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Adam Weinstein, COO & CFO – New Mountain Capital (EP.35)
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Adam Weinstein is a Managing Director, COO, and CFO of New Mountain Capital, a $50 billion private equity firm focused on middle market buyout, credit, and net lease strategies. I really enjoyed this conversation because we focused on two critical elements of building investment firms: people and process. Adam discusses their investment committee g…
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Conversations: Dissecting the Dual Economy with Armen Panossian and Wayne Dahl
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The disparity between the haves and the have-nots has widened meaningfully in the U.S. economy over the last year. As a result, healthy aggregate macroeconomic indicators have often obscured the weakness building among pockets of the population. In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Cred…
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Performing Credit Quarterly 2Q2024: The Dual Economy
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In the latest Performing Credit Quarterly, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) discuss how conflicting trends in the bifurcated U.S. economy are sending mixed signals and creating challenges for both central bankers and investors. They discuss the potential implicatio…
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Steven Schwab, GC and CCO – Thoma Bravo (EP.34)
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Steven Schwab is the GC and CCO for Thoma Bravo, a $142 billion private equity firm that invests in growing software and technology companies. Prior to joining Thoma Bravo in 2015, Steven practiced law at Winston and Strawn and Katten Munchin. Steven shares how to make best use of your legal resources. He shares his thoughts on when to bring legal …
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Behind the Memo: The Indispensability of Risk with Howard Marks, Bruce Karsh, and Maurice Ashley
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In this episode of Behind the Memo, Howard Marks is joined by two special guests: Oaktree cofounder Bruce Karsh and the chess Grandmaster Maurice Ashley. In a wide-ranging conversation, they discuss Howard’s recent memo "The Indispensability of Risk" as well as the inspiration for that memo: Maurice’s Wall Street Journal article, "Chess Teaches the…
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In his latest memo, Howard Marks discusses the importance of avoiding expressions of absolute certainty when operating in fields subject to randomness and human emotion, like politics, economics, and investing. He suggests that it’s better to have humility and acknowledge that the smartest thing to say is often “I don’t know.” You can read the memo…
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Nicole Adrien, Chief Product Officer & Global Head of Client Relations – Oaktree Capital Management (EP.33)
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Nicole Adrien is the Chief Product Officer and Global Head of Client Relations at Oaktree Capital. If you work directly with clients and prospects, this is the conversation for you. Nicole discusses her career path beginnings at Goldman Sachs, and how she turned a summer internship during business school into a career at Oaktree. Working with clien…
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The Insight: Conversations - Oaktree Conference 2024 Edition
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In a special edition of The Insight: Conversations, you’ll hear excerpts from multiple sessions held during Oaktree’s recent biannual client conference. Oaktree co-chairman Howard Marks does a deep dive into his sea change thesis, members of Oaktree’s Global Credit team examine the most significant trends impacting the high yield bond and leveraged…
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Conversations: Oaktree Conference 2024 Edition
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In a special edition of The Insight: Conversations, you’ll hear excerpts from multiple sessions held during Oaktree’s recent biannual client conference. Oaktree co-chairman Howard Marks does a deep dive into his sea change thesis, members of Oaktree’s Global Credit team examine the most significant trends impacting the high yield bond and leveraged…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree Conference 2024
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Oaktree recently held its biennial client conference featuring presentations from co-chairman Howard Marks, co-CEOs Robert O’Leary and Armen Panossian, and many other key Oaktree thought leaders. In a special edition of The Roundup, we’ve highlighted various topics discussed at Oaktree Conference 2024, including the next frontier of private credit,…
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Taimur Hyat, COO – PGIM (EP.32)
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Taimur Hyat is the Chief Operating Officer for PGIM. PGIM manages over 1.3 trillion in equity, fixed income, real estate, alternatives, and multi-asset solutions. Being a “strategic COO” is the wave of the future, and Taimur provides some great insight on how he does it. He shares his evolution from doing development economic research to consulting…
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Bonus Episode: Howard Marks on “In Good Company”
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Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks (https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardmarksbook/) joined the In Good Company podcast with Nicolai Tangen (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolai-tangen/). They discussed Howard's investment philosophy, risk management, and how to determine the quality of a decision.
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Hank Boughner, CEO – Dynamo Software (EP.31)
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This Sponsored Insight features Hank Boughner, the CEO of Dynamo Software – an end-to-end platform for the alternative investment industry. Hank has been the CEO of Dynamo Software since 2017. His unique career path as an engineer, investment banker, and private equity investor gives him a unique perspective on what the future holds for investment …
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Darshan Desai, COO – Beach Point Capital Management (EP.30)
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Darshan Desai is the COO and Head of Risk at Beach Point Capital, a $15 billion credit shop based in Santa Monica, CA. Darshan and I discuss his career path, which began at York Capital, his move to Kansas City to works for BATS, and then finding his way to Beach Point in 2010. Darshan shares his experience and learnings from seeing two firms ramp …
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Amy Knapp, COO – Corsair Capital (EP.29)
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Amy Knapp is the COO of Corsair Capital, a private equity firm that is focused on buyouts and infrastructure. When we started the podcast, the goal was to share best practices among investment operations professionals, and my conversation with Amy fires on all cylinders. Amy discusses her career path from public accounting to an unexpected opportun…
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Nasdaq Solovis at Verger Capital (EP.28)
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This Sponsored Insight highlights Nasdaq’s Solovis, a multi-asset class portfolio, data, and risk management system for asset owners. We spoke with Jeff Manning of Verger Capital Management, a $2.8 billion OCIO that was created out of the Wake Forest University Office of Investments. Verger’s CIO, Jim Dunn, was an early guest on Capital Allocators,…
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[REPLAY] Jim Dunn – Protect, Perform, Provide (Capital Allocators, EP.24)
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Jim Dunn is the CEO and CIO of Verger Capital Management, an Outsourced CIO business whose anchor client is Wake Forest University. Prior to forming Verger, he served as CIO of Wake Forest for five years. That transition from a sole client to an OCIO business, is a fascinating part of our conversation. Before joining Wake, Jim traveled the world as…
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In his latest memo, Howard Marks examines the relationship between leverage and survivability, taking inspiration from a recent Collaborative Fund post by Morgan Housel. Howard explains why determining the appropriate amount of leverage should be about optimization, not maximization. You can read the memo here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insigh…
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Karl Sprules, COO – AllianceBernstein (EP.27)
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Karl Sprules is the COO at Alliance Bernstein, a global asset manager with $725 billion in assets and over 4,700 employees. I really enjoyed speaking with Karl as he shows how you can be nimble at scale. We cover a lot of territory from his beginnings at Alliance Capital in the technology group, navigating the merger that created AB, and his evolut…
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Conversations: Volatility Ahead? Featuring Howard Marks, Armen Panossian, and David Rosenberg
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Where are we in the market cycle? Why is it healthy to be uncertain? And what does it mean to actually “be opportunistic”? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), Armen Panossian (Co-CEO), and David Rosenberg (Head of Liquid Performing Credit) discuss these and other topics from the recently published Perfor…
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The Insight: Conversations – Volatility Ahead? Featuring Howard Marks, Armen Panossian, and David Rosenberg
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Where are we in the market cycle? Why is it healthy to be uncertain? And what does it mean to actually “be opportunistic”? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), Armen Panossian (Co-CEO), and David Rosenberg (Head of Liquid Performing Credit) discuss these and other topics from the recently published Perfor…
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Performing Credit Quarterly 1Q2024: Unusually Uncertain
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Oaktree co-chairman Howard Marks recently noted that many investors today are feeling “unusually uncertain” about the future of the economy and financial markets. In the latest Performing Credit Quarterly, Armen Panossian (co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) explore the pockets of ris…
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Michael Lukasek, Managing Director – University of Pennsylvania (EP.26)
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Mike Lukasek is a Managing Director and the COO for the University of Pennsylvania’s Office of Investments. Mike has been the COO of Penn’s Endowment for over 14 years. Prior to that, he was a VP at Goldman Sachs for their private equity fund of funds business and a VP of Finance at Summit Partners. Given his tenure at Penn, Mike brings perspective…
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The Indispensability of Risk
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In his latest memo, Howard Marks considers what chess can teach investors about the paradox of risk-taking. Drawing on insights from a recent Wall Street Journal article (https://www.wsj.com/sports/chess-teaches-the-power-of-sacrifice-221db7b7) by chess grandmaster Maurice Ashley, Howard explains why not taking enough risk may be one of the riskies…
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Conversations: Defying Gravity with Robert O’Leary, Armen Panossian, Jean-Pierre Latrille, and Janet Wang
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What were some of the biggest surprises in credit markets during the first quarter? Why might global convertibles be set for a rebound? And why do many Chinese equities look more attractive today than they did a year ago? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Robert O’Leary (co-CEO), Armen Panossian (co-CEO), Jean-Pierre Latrille (Po…
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Lawrence Miller, CTO – Wilshire (EP.25)
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Lawrence Miller is the CTO of Wilshire, an independent investment management firm that offers consulting services, analytical products, and manages funds for a global client base. For many of us owning and understanding technology is critical for our business. However, many of us have come up through the ranks without hands-on training. This is whe…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree’s Quarterly Letters – March 2024 Edition
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In this installment of The Roundup, you’ll learn what Oaktree’s new co-CEOs, Robert O’Leary and Armen Panossian, think about today’s investment environment. You’ll also find insights about opportunistic credit, asset-backed finance, the Chinese equity market, and more. You can read The Roundup here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/insight-c…
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Kenneth Onorio, CFO/COO – Eagle Point Credit Company (EP.24)
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Ken Onorio is the Chief Financial and Chief Operating Officer of Eagle Point Credit, a $9 billion credit-oriented investment firm. At some level, this is an interview about the softer skills in our space. Having spent time in hedge funds and a tour in fund administration, Ken shares his unique perspective with some key takeaways. Ken then discusses…
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In his 2020 memo You Bet!, Howard Marks explained what it means to “think in bets,” as he discussed the many parallels between investing and games of chance. Now you can listen to You Bet!, the first release from The Memo by Howard Marks: The Archive. We’ve received many requests for an audio library of the memos that Howard Marks has published ove…
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Terry Thompson, COO – Berkshire Partners (EP.23)
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Terry Thompson is the Chief Operating Officer of Berkshire Partners, Boston-based private equity firm started in the 1980s before adding public equity capabilities in 2007. Terry shares how his background across 8 different industries helped him land the role at Berkshire. We talk about how to quickly transition into a new industry, how to assess a…
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Conversations: NAV Finance 101 with Pierre-Antoine de Selancy
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Learn about the next generation of private credit with Pierre-Antoine de Selancy, Cofounder and Managing Partner of 17Capital. 17Capital, which partnered with Oaktree in 2022, is a market leader in NAV finance. Pierre-Antoine explains what NAV finance is, why it has become so popular, and why its growth is likely to accelerate in the coming years.…
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NAV Finance 101: The Next Generation of Private Credit
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Learn all about NAV finance, a rapidly growing segment of the private credit landscape, in this explainer, which was authored by Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and Pierre-Antoine de Selancy (Cofounder and Managing Partner, 17Capital). They discuss the evolution of NAV finance, the benefits for both lenders and borrowers, and…
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Jason Ment, COO - StepStone Group (EP.22)
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Jason Ment is the president and Co-COO of StepStone Group, a global private markets investment firm focused on providing customized investment solutions, advisory and data services on behalf of clients representing $659B. I really enjoyed this wide-ranging discussion on what is just around the corner in private markets. We cover his career path fro…
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Intelligo at Stonehaven Partners (EP.21)
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Today Sponsored Insight highlights Intelligo, a risk intelligence and background check platform that blends human analysis with cutting-edge AI to uncover facts in a fraction of the time. I sat down with Brian Gaffney of Stonehaven Partners to discuss the common challenges with background checks and how Intelligo helps his team streamline and scale…
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Conversations: The Goldilocks Market with Armen Panossian, Danielle Poli, and Wayne Dahl
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Which macroeconomic tailwinds are weakening and potentially turning into headwinds? Why may it now be easier to find a signal amid the economic noise? And what are the implications for credit investors? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Armen Panossian (incoming co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit), Danielle Poli (Assistant Port…
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Stephen Baranowski, Head of Client Ops – Adams Street Partners (EP.20)
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Steve Baranowski is a Partner and Head of Client Operations at Adams Street Partners, a private investment manager with $58B in assets. Steve discusses his early career in public accounting and the nuances of transitioning to a client. He then shares what makes Adams Street unique and how their operations has evolved over time while striving to kee…
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Behind the Memo: Easy Money with Howard Marks and Edward Chancellor
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In this special episode of Behind the Memo, Howard Marks is joined by journalist and financial historian Edward Chancellor to discuss ideas from Howard’s recent memo, Easy Money, which was inspired by Edward’s book, The Price of Time: The Real Story of Interest. They explore the history of interest rates, the profound impact they’ve had on financia…
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Performing Credit Quarterly 4Q2023: The Goldilocks Trap
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In the latest Performing Credit Quarterly, Armen Panossian (Head of Performing Credit) and Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) discuss the “Goldilocks thinking” prevalent in today’s markets, highlighting the potential pitfalls and opportunities it’s creating. At a time when several long- and short-term economic tailwinds appe…
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Stephanie Withers, Senior Manager Investment Operations – W.K. Kellogg Foundation (EP.19)
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Stephanie Withers is the Head of Investment Operations at the WK Kellogg Foundation Investment Office, an $8 billion private foundation. I really enjoyed Stephanie’s authenticity to make the world and her investment office a better place. We cover their initiatives on DEI in what they call their Expanding Equity Program. This program is unique in t…
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Beth Gilje, Founder – Union Park Consulting (EP.18)
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Today’s Sponsored Insight features Beth Gilje, the founder of Union Park Consulting, a leading investment operations consulting firm that provides operational and technical consulting to some of the world’s leading institutions and family offices. Prior to founding Union Park, Beth worked at the investment office of the University of Pennsylvania f…
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In his latest memo, Howard Marks considers what financial history can teach us about periods of easy money, the impact they have on investor behavior, and what happens when they end. He analyzes macroeconomic trends using insights from Edward Chancellor’s latest book The Price of Time: The Real Story of Interest to argue that we’re unlikely to soon…
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Conversations: Walking into the Unknown with Howard Marks, David Rosenberg, and Aman Kumar
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What is a “normal” investment environment? What might a recession in 2024 mean for liquid credit? What’s happening in life sciences lending today? Find out by listening to the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations with Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), David Rosenberg (Co-Portfolio Manager, Global Credit), and Aman Kumar (Co-Portfolio Manager, Lif…
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The Insight: Conversations – Walking into the Unknown with Howard Marks, David Rosenberg, and Aman Kumar
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What is a “normal” investment environment? What might a recession in 2024 mean for liquid credit? What’s happening in life sciences lending today? Find out by listening to the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations with Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), David Rosenberg (Co-Portfolio Manager, Global Credit), and Aman Kumar (Co-Portfolio Manager, Lif…
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Shaun Ng, COO – Cleveland Clinic Investment Office (EP.17)
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Shaun Ng is the Managing Director of Risk, Analytics, and Investment Operations at the Cleveland Clinic Investment Office. Shaun joined Cleveland Clinic in 2016 after working over 10 years at the World Bank. He shares how they created their investment office from scratch after the board opted to insource their investments from an OCIO. We later tur…
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Frank Perez, MD, Head of ODD – Makena Capital (EP.16)
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Frank Perez is a Managing Director and Head of Operational Due Diligence at Makena Capital, an OCIO whose roots emanate from Stanford’s Endowment. Prior to joining Makena in 2015, Frank was engaged in ODD efforts at Saguenay Strathmore Capital, Morgan Stanley and UBP where he focused on private equity, real estate, and hedge fund investments. Frank…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree’s Quarterly Letters – December 2023 Edition
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In 2023, credit markets have experienced dramatic swings in investor sentiment, unexpected geopolitical events, and the second consecutive year of rising interest rates. In the current installment of The Roundup, Oaktree experts consider where opportunities and risks are emerging in various assets classes – including high yield bonds, CLOs, and Eur…
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Dan Houlihan, CEO – STP Investment Services (EP.15)
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Today’s Sponsored Insight features Dan Houlihan, the CEO of STP Investment Services, a global investment operations firm that provides complete front, middle, and back office services for investment managers. Dan joined STP in August 2022 after spending 11 years at Northern Trust as the EVP and Head of Asset Servicing. Prior to Northern Trust he wa…
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