Reality TV nostalgia takes us back to where it all began

The Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kēfla and Cree

After 17 years away, we returned to Los Angeles for the Road Rules 30th anniversary celebration, bringing our 21-year-old twin sons to see where their story began. The journey was filled with unexpected moments from the start—narrowly avoiding staying at an Airbnb in a building under police surveillance thanks to our LA connections, and experiencing the shocking reality of California traffic (three hours to drive 60 miles!).
The trip became a beautiful full-circle moment as we showed our boys the hospital where they were born, our first apartment (hilariously still for rent after all these years), and the schools where we taught. But perhaps the most meaningful experience was watching them witness their father's impact on others—fans lining up for autographs and photos, sharing stories of how Road Rules influenced their lives.
Between nostalgic visits and reunions with castmates like Susie and Tina, we indulged in LA food culture from The Griddle's massive pancakes to Little Tokyo's treasures. Kee even auditioned for a character role in Snoop Dogg's "Doggyland" a C to the B Production—a fitting callback to his Hip Hop Harry days just before we left California years ago.
The trip wasn't without its adventures, including a celebrity sighting at Saddle Ranch (we're keeping that name to ourselves) and a luggage mix-up that had us driving back to Atlanta's airport at midnight. But these moments reminded us that sometimes detours happen for a reason, and there's always a story worth telling on the other side.
As we return to our routines and prepare for our 22nd wedding anniversary, this LA journey offered a perfect reminder of how far we've come and the beautiful life we've built together since those early California days.

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1. Reality TV nostalgia takes us back to where it all began (00:00:00)

2. Welcome to Refreshingly Normal (00:00:21)

3. Teaching and Education Challenges (00:02:00)

4. Road Rules 30th Anniversary Trip (00:10:40)

5. The Airbnb Catastrophe (00:18:22)

6. Exploring LA's Old Haunts (00:27:04)

7. Food Adventures in Los Angeles (00:36:03)

8. The Celebrity Encounter (00:40:38)

9. The Road Rules Panel Event (00:48:07)

10. The Luggage Mix-Up (00:57:53)

11. Reflections and Anniversary Plans (01:03:31)