TLS114: Matt Black on Building Atomic Finance, DLCs on Bitcoin and Lightning, and Self-Custody

The Kevin Rooke Show

Matt Black is the co-founder & CTO of Atomic Finance, a Bitcoin company that uses DLCs to make it possible for people to earn a self-custodial yield on Bitcoin.

In our conversation we discussed Matt’s path to building on Bitcoin, we explored the potential risks and rewards of Atomic Finance, the importance of self-custodial financial tools, and the value Atomic Finance might get from integrating Lightning and other L2 scaling solutions.

→ Atomic Finance: https://atomic.finance

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Timestamps

00:00 - Intro

02:21 - Matt Black Intro

03:45 - Why Matt Left Ethereum to Work on Bitcoin

11:48 - Ossification on Bitcoin

15:48 - Understanding Atomic Finance

23:57 - Is Yield Necessary or Useful for Bitcoin?

39:16 - Sound Finance vs. DeFi

40:47 - Will Atomic Finance Integrate the Lightning Network?

48:59 - Other Interesting Bitcoin Scaling Solutions

56:23 - Proposing New Changes to Bitcoin

1:01:40 - The Lightning Round