Real estate is not known for its innovative character and openness to change - a missed opportunity! How do we move to a climate that fosters innovative real estate companies, instead of sticking to conservatism? Mats Bartels and Guido van Winden sat down with bGrid, Openr, Chainels, EcoBuilding from Priva , PULSE Core and Smartvatten to talk about their lessons learned trying to make it as a strategic technology partner in a market that does things 'the way it has always been done'