S3 E8 - Ending a much-loved creative project (and the void that follows) with Kim Willis

Knowing When to Quit

Welcome back writer, journalist and strategist Kim Willis to the show! You may remember Kim from series 2 when we talked about Knowing When To Quit the desire to have children (the pod's most downloaded episode to date).

Today we're back discussing Kim's decision to quit her creative project Heroine's Journey - an event series, which championed female storytelling. At the point of recording (November 2022) Kim had just closed the business and was facing the void. Now in April 2024 there are updates about what happened in the void, so stay tuned to the end!

On the episode we discuss:

• Why Kim started Heroine's Journey and what it means to be ending it
• How we are hard-wired to need stories, but how trauma storytelling is being weaponised
• Kim's attempts to re-inject the project with new energy and new direction
• What is the void and why do we struggle with it so much?
• Rituals and learnings from Sarah closing her comedy night
• What is Kim actually quitting by closing HJ
• A voicenote from future Kim with what happened next

Kim's website: https://www.wherewegrow.co.uk/

Kim's newsletter: https://wherewegrow.substack.com/

Kimstagram: @_kimwillis and @heroinesjourney_/

Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit

Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/

Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling

This was recorded in November 2022 in person in Hackney

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