77 | Finding order in chaos with Anna Spargo-Ryan, author of 'A Kind of Magic'

James and Ashley Stay at Home

‘There’s a reason that this has happened. Science could predict this outcome for me, even though I feel like I’m in constant chaos.’ Anna Spargo-Ryan is the author of the memoir A Kind of Magic. In this illuminating interview, she describes the gap between what science understands and what she’s experienced over a lifetime of mental illness.

Anna speaks about the profound impact one ‘silly’ suggestion from her therapist had, as well as the deficiency of language about mental illness and resulting misunderstandings. She also reads to us about the years when she faced an inability to exist on the weekends.

Anna Spargo-Ryan is the author of two novels, The Gulf and The Paper House, and an acclaimed nonfiction writer and teacher. She was the inaugural winner of the Horne Prize and is the current nonfiction editor at Island Magazine.

Books and authors discussed in this episode:

• ‘A psychologist handed my partner an article to help with my anxiety. I’d written it’ by Anna Spargo-Ryan, Sydney Morning Herald
• Paul de Man, literary theorist;
• Fleishman Is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner;
• Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom;
• The Wych Elm by Tana French;
• In the Woods by Tana French;
• The Others by Mark Brandi;
• Stolen Focus by Johann Hari;
• Notes on an Execution by Danya Kukafka

Note: Nothing in this podcast is intended as medical advice. If you have concerns about your mental health, speak to your GP.

Upcoming events with Ashley:

• Taking the Next Step: Australian Society of Authors online workshop – Wednesday 3 May, 1-2 pm, ($30-60)
• Brisbane Writers Festival Thrills and Chills – Saturday 13 May, 4-5 pm, Stale Library Queensland ($25)
• Author Talk, Sutherlandshire Libraries – Monday 15 May, 6.30-7.30 pm, free, RSVP required
• The Listening Station – Tuesday 16 May, 6.45-8 pm, Art Bau Gallery, Brookvale ($30)
• Enter the Dark Web – in conversation at Sydney Mechanics' School of Arts, Tuesday 30 May, 12.30-1.30 pm, free
• Words on the Waves Festival Shaping Australia panel – Sunday 4 June, 11.30 am - 12.30 pm, day or weekend pass

Upcoming events with James:

• Sydney Writers Festival presents James McKenzie Watson – Wednesday 24 May, 6.30-7.30 pm, Penrith City Library ($5 – book here)
• Sydney Writers Festival Life in the Landscape – Thursday 25 May, 11 am to 12 pm, Carriageworks ($15-$25 – book here)
• Yarrum Storyfest – 1-2 July, Yarrum Regional Theatre, Yarrum, VIC ($25-$40 book here)

Ashley's psychological thriller 'Dark Mode' is out now! Learn more about it and get your copy.

James' novel 'Denizen' is out now! Learn more about it and get your copy.

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