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This week, I talk to producer, creative executive, entrepreneur and meditation teacher Tim Duffy, who shares some amazing tools and tips to overcome the anxiety, stress, anger, frustration, worry, and disappointment that comes in the crazy world we live in today. I also dig into the latest efforts to unionize reality TV, which is very complicated, and how streaming costs are going to keep rising and rising. Plus, I address the struggles we are facing in unscripted TV amidst the rising costs of streaming and the slow decline in broadcast viewing.

For information on Tim's meditation practices or to reach him, check out his website: https://www.timduffymeditation.com

And check out the amazing food biz he and his brother created as well. https://yumcrunch.com

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And if you're looking for a transcript of the episode, here it is:

00:00:00:09 - 00:00:22:21
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Welcome to another episode of the No Script No Problem Podcast on Bleav, the number one podcast network for professionals. Do you believe? Now, if you enjoy this show, please remember to subscribe and rate it with five stars. It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon music, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts. You also find it on Bleav.com and @bleavpodcasts.

00:00:23:01 - 00:00:48:12
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
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00:00:48:12 - 00:01:22:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
But before I chat with him, it's time for a little reality check. For the first time ever, linear TV viewership made up less than half of all TV usage in a measurement month. That is according to Nielsen's. The Gauge report for July broadcast TV accounted for only 20% of viewing and cable TV 29.6%. It was a record lows and down 5.4% and 12.5% respectively, versus the same period last year.

00:01:22:05 - 00:02:00:17
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
YouTube and Netflix lead the way in terms of your streamers. Streaming viewing rose 2.9% from June to July 2023 and was up 25.3% over the past year, accounting for 38.7% of total TV usage. That's huge. Now, the thing that's kind of interesting is that one of the shows that has kind of really given Netflix this bump, you know, a 4.2% increase in TV share over the course of June is Suits, which was a cable shows on USA Network right from 2011 to 2019.

00:02:00:17 - 00:02:21:03
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So it's pretty wild that this show, which picked up 4000000000 minutes of viewing in one week, was on USA and virtually no one was talking about it during its nine season. I mean, a nine season run is incredible, but it wasn't like it was, you know, winning Emmy after Emmy. It wasn't a succession, you know, it wasn't a Breaking Bad.

00:02:21:05 - 00:02:52:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And now it's like you look at comments people are making online and it's like suits. You'd think it's, you know, the greatest show ever. So it shows to me that it's not that people don't like broadcast programing, it's not that people don't like cable programing. They just prefer watching things on Netflix. They prefer watching things on YouTube. Now, the big irony here is that the average cost of subscribing ad free to a major streamer has jumped almost 25% in the last year.

00:02:52:08 - 00:03:20:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
That's according to the Wall Street Journal. All right. So after years of cheap monthly fees, right, that we all loved when we first got Netflix or we first got Apple TV Plus right where we first got that wonderful bundle of Hulu and Espn+. Right. And Disney Plus, that's all gone. Everybody wants to make money. Now. All the streamers need to make money, but they are now testing our loyalty, testing customer loyalty.

00:03:20:04 - 00:03:50:14
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And they are all raising their prices. An average assortment of the top U.S. streaming services will be worth $87 a month come this fall, while an average cable package will be $83. All right. So just like we just talked about how streaming has surpassed broadcast and cable in viewers right now, the whole point of streaming, we didn't want to pay as much as cable.

00:03:50:14 - 00:04:16:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Now it's all shifting back and we're suddenly paying more money for streaming than we are for cable. Disney is raising its prices for Disney Plus and Hulu, and that follows on the heels of Peacock NetFlow, X, Max, Paramount Plus and Apple TV Plus All have raised their prices recently. It's going to keep happening. They're going to keep doing this until Wall Street is happy.

00:04:16:05 - 00:04:48:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
The business model hasn't worked unless you're Netflix. This is also why you're seeing a huge increase in free ad supported television. Fast channels. Right to Be is a perfect example to be doing well. Moving on to the wild world of reality television, former Real Housewives of New York star Bethenny Frankel, she's causing quite a stir, talking to dozens of reality TV talent, trying to get them to unionize and get involved in potential litigation as well.

00:04:48:10 - 00:05:22:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
She is encouraging reality TV stars to boycott along with SAG, is asking for residuals on her shows. You know, she thinks reality TV stars should get residuals, just like actors and actresses. We have talked about reality TV. You unions for as long as I can remember. But what she's doing is going a step further. Bethenny is throwing accusations around at Bravo about a so-called cover up, you know, during an incident that happened on set.

00:05:22:20 - 00:05:46:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And she's hired two very high powered lawyers. They're accusing NBCUniversal, the parent company of Bravo, of exploitation and abuse. Among other things, they've asked NBC's lawyers to preserve discovery as part of their investigation session. It's getting kind of ugly. I can't speak to anything that has to do with the litigation or any of these things that they're accusing NBC or Bravo or the producers of doing.

00:05:46:05 - 00:06:13:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
But I can say that unionization when it comes to reality TV is complicated. That is a very nuanced topic that I've talked to dozens of producers and friends about. And I think Bethenny has some valid points when she talks about working hours and base pay rates. Those are valid points. But there are so many layers that come into play when you're talking about reality TV.

00:06:13:06 - 00:06:37:24
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, she makes a point about, you know, I think she said, you know, she only made seven grand for her first season on The Housewives. Well, Raquel, you know, as it turns out from Vanderpump Rules, made $361,000 this past season. You know, Vanderpump Rules huge hit, their biggest season ever, nominated for an Emmy. But that's a ton of money, I think, when you're talking about reality TV, it's such a diverse genre.

00:06:38:01 - 00:07:05:14
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You can't pay a contestant on The Bachelor or Survivor the same as you do a housewife in a small ensemble cast or you can't pay the same for a designer on HGTV as much as you do a family member on a TLC show or you do you pay the same for a guy who's on a boat on Deadliest Catch as you do somebody who's competing for love on 90 day fiance.

00:07:05:16 - 00:07:26:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So the genre so diverse that it's really hard to just throw numbers in there. You know, for a first season show. I think there's a lot of things that you need to take into consideration. But I do think rules and regulations are a good thing. And I think it's it's very valid to bring this up that we need to have that discussion.

00:07:26:22 - 00:08:15:07
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I don't know if a union is the right thing, but I certainly feel like a little bit more firm. Ground rules are good thing. I would be remiss, though, if I didn't mention that producers have no union as well in unscripted television. So no insurance, no overtime and no residuals, and that often goes unmentioned. It would be amazing to get residuals when the networks run reality shows all day long on E, Bravo, MTV, Lifetime, etc. In fact, the writers on Ridiculousness are asking to join the WGA, I believe, as they should, because that show runs night and day on MTV and those folks are literally writing jokes as lead ins to the clips.

00:08:15:07 - 00:08:42:13
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, other clip shows like America's Funniest Home Videos, 2.0, those writers are in the WGA. There's no reason why the folks on ridiculousness should be as well. But as you kind of can tell, it's a complicated issue. All right. Well, stick with reality TV, because why not? An article this past week and deadline had a lot of folks worried and a lot of people in reality TV are freaking out.

00:08:42:13 - 00:09:18:13
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
The headline to the article reads Doom and Gloom in Unscripted TV Producers battled challenging conditions As mid-sized firms face layoffs. It appropriately addresses the, quote, Slow down of green lights and cost cutting and quote, within the platforms and networks and how it has led to a slew of layoffs and a dearth of work in unscripted TV. The article references this drought hitting reputable companies like being a murray half yard hot snakes, high noon and propagate all very good companies.

00:09:18:16 - 00:09:45:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
One unscripted producer told DEADLINE, quote, It's the toughest time to be in unscripted that I can remember, unquote. Another said it was a, quote, brutal moment. I would agree. I would agree with both those producers. We all remain hopeful that things will rebound. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I will continue to tread water, keep my head above that water.

00:09:45:10 - 00:10:11:00
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Nobody should feel alone, though. That is for sure. If you're struggling out there, you're worried, Hang in there, man. And that's why I got Tim Duffy coming up in a minute. Tim Duffy is my guest. Tim Duffy is an extremely talented producer, creative executive. He's an entrepreneur here, he is a founder and he is a seasoned teacher of meditation and mindfulness.

00:10:11:02 - 00:10:46:15
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And that is why I wanted him to come on the podcast, right? So along with being co-founder of Yum Crunch and Ugly Brother Studios with his brother Mike. Tim is a peak performance and productivity specialist who combines 15 years of teaching meditation with 20 years in the C-suite to help executives, employees and organizations thrive. Now, as you'll hear, his style modernizes the ancient teachings of mindfulness and adapts them for modern professionals.

00:10:46:16 - 00:11:11:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So with all the chaos going on in both the entertainment industry and in the world at large, I think he's the perfect guest. So sit back, find a quiet place, relax. Tim's got some words of wisdom for you. Enjoy. Well, welcome back to the podcast, my friend, Mr. Tim Duffy. A lot has changed since the last time we talked.

00:11:11:11 - 00:11:35:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
We talked last time about mindfulness. But you are now big into this world of mindfulness and meditation. You're now, I would call you a guru in this space. And this amidst your your role on world shifts and being, you know, being a founder, being a co-CEO with your brother in that space, in this crazy world that we're in right now with media and entertainment.

00:11:35:20 - 00:12:02:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And I've talked about that on the podcast before, how, you know, everybody's kind of stressed out. I thought it was perfect for you to talk about kind of the way you deal with the stresses of this world with mindfulness meditation. So talk to me a little bit about when when the craziness comes into your world, whether it's as a dad or as an executive, how do you use mindfulness, how to use meditation to handle all the insanity that comes into the world?

00:12:02:03 - 00:12:17:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
First of all, thank you for calling me a guru, which means teacher, right? Which is true. I am a meditation teacher, but in our Western culture it also means douche bag. So do not call me a guru.

00:12:17:15 - 00:12:21:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Let me rephrase. You are not a guru. What's a better word? It's a better word.

00:12:21:24 - 00:12:28:02
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I'm. I am a mindfulness teacher. I've been teaching mindfulness for the past 15 years.

00:12:28:04 - 00:12:36:07
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Okay, I agree. I will take back Guru and I will just say mindfulness Teacher. Instructor. Yes. Okay.

00:12:36:09 - 00:13:05:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Do the woo woo of the mindfulness community is so funny to me, right? Because like, the thing about mindfulness is it's, it's a practice that we can learn and it doesn't really take any special skills. Every single human being on earth has the ability to be mindful. And the the my particular set of circumstances brought me to mindfulness because of my own friend's anxiety and depression.

00:13:05:06 - 00:13:32:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And when I was growing up, I had this kind of pervasive sense that I was not well. I had a fear of death, a constant fear of death when I was growing up, a general kind of like unsatisfactory ness that was like the foundation of my experience and the world outside of my internal world didn't quite know about it, right?

00:13:32:13 - 00:14:01:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I wasn't like talking about it because I was, you know, a young man with the bravado of youth and I was seemingly doing pretty well in school and and in my work life. When I went to college, my freshman year, I was a psychology major. I wanted to work with kids. And I took this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy from this old hippie dude named Norman Bradford.

00:14:01:10 - 00:14:12:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
He had he was like a he was he looked like a guru. He had flowy white hair, a long flowing, like Z.Z top beard.

00:14:12:13 - 00:14:14:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:14:14:07 - 00:14:44:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And he was just a hippie who was obsessed with creating different avenues towards wellness that weren't solely dependent on the methods of Western psychology and science. Right. Which is, of course, the language of the West is material science. So he kind of he started this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy. And every single week all we did was a new kind of meditation.

00:14:44:20 - 00:15:11:06
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And one week we'd be climbing up a tree outside and just sitting in a tree and listening to the wind. And another week we would be listening to poetry, and another week we would be doing African drumming, you know. So this was the privileged life of, you know, a private college in Baltimore called Gautier, where I discovered these traditions.

00:15:11:06 - 00:15:53:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I never looked back. I'd meditate, meditated every single day. Since then, I've accrued well over 10000 hours of meditation time in my life. I sit every single morning for about an hour in the morning. Meditation for me and mindfulness have become really kind of the backdrop against which absolutely everything that I experience is experienced. So that kind of dual path, right, of like growing up in the world, getting jobs and careers, and also simultaneously having this meditation practice in my life.

00:15:53:24 - 00:16:33:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
It was the the job and the career and the life and the death and the sickness. All of that was grist for the mill, for the meditation practice, right? We don't recede back into a cave and become a monk for ten years. Although that exists, most of us actually have to pay the bills. Right, And has a great teacher, a guru named Ram Dass, that he said, Remember your true nature, which is awareness itself and your Social Security number.

00:16:33:15 - 00:16:59:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And so it's the pairing of these these two things where mindfulness can really help us thrive amidst whatever is happening. And I and there's a lot happening in our lives right now. Steve. You know, not just in a post-pandemic world of how do we we're continuing to figure out how do we exist together, how do we re socialize?

00:16:59:13 - 00:17:10:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We're pretty far on the other side of this. Yet a lot of folks are still trying to figure out, you know, how do I get out of the loneliness cycle? How do I socialize?

00:17:10:24 - 00:17:36:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I think that's a great point. The re socialization, at least for me, you know, being on set, being around friends was something that you took for granted in 2019, right up until the pandemic. And then we all became Zoomers In one of your posts that I saw you, you were kind of saying when you were I think your point was that meditation and mindfulness is for everybody.

00:17:36:20 - 00:17:47:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
What do you feel like if you're a beginner? What is kind of that that first problem or that the first issue that people have with meditation or mindfulness?

00:17:47:06 - 00:18:36:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I think we step back even further and we go, Well, why do we need meditation and mindfulness, right, to develop an adversarial relationship with meditation and mindfulness is just a continuation of the reason why we come to meditate, meditation and mindfulness, right? Which is because we suffer the foundation of mindfulness, which of course is pulled from Buddhism. It's kind of the secular, if you will, set of practices that we're born out of a Buddhist tradition, of course, which was preceded by Hindu tradition and the Buddha, he said, We suffer because we are attached.

00:18:36:09 - 00:19:10:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And it begs the question, well, what are we attached to? And the answer to that is we're attached to permanence. We believe that things are going to stick around. They're going to stay that our our lives are going to stay the same when things are going really well. We want things to change when things aren't going well, but when things are going really well, we don't want things to change.

00:19:11:01 - 00:19:50:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So we suffer for things to change when things aren't going well. That means that when things are going well, they also have to change. This is the nature of our human life. We are born into this body and we get sick and we age and we die eventually. This is the starting point for why we suffer. We rage against the machine of our own human body and our attachment to being young or being pretty or being thin.

00:19:50:17 - 00:20:31:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right is creating harm in our lives. Being human is a sexually transmitted disease that always ends in death. What did the Buddhist doctor write on the death certificate as the cause of death birth? That makes sense. Yeah, right. So we we somehow think that we're going to evade this reality. Everything changes. Impermanence is a fundamental law of being human.

00:20:31:14 - 00:21:00:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And this is why we ask the question, how can I decrease my suffering? What is it that can come into my head that I can bring into my life and provide myself with some sense of relief? And to begin the process of relief is to acknowledge the fundamental truth of our existence, that it changes, that everything is impermanent.

00:21:00:24 - 00:21:33:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I think this is very much on display in the entertainment world for us right now. The old ways of living, of the consistency of getting a job, the consistency of a paycheck, right, the consistency of the big media machine, knowing how to monetize itself and thriving, you know, and yet simultaneously continually pissing all over the people and the companies that are feeding the machine of media.

00:21:33:10 - 00:22:13:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. We're in two of our deals are in strike mode right now, negotiating with this incredibly ill defined impermanent force called big media, who in and of itself, big media, doesn't know how to make a solvent business? How are we negotiating with a business that doesn't know how to monetize itself? Right. It's essential that we stand up and present ourselves back to big media and say we deserve to be paid, we deserve to be treated in equitable way.

00:22:13:21 - 00:22:48:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But at the same time, how are we negotiating with the machine that doesn't know how to run it? So at the core of the mindfulness, teaching is a is a concept that was derived from the US government. The Army College, I believe, created a term called VUCA at the end of the Cold War to kind of define know what is this thing that we're feeling in a term as a as a global community.

00:22:49:00 - 00:23:26:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And VUCA was developed and it stands for volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity, right? So volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity. Doesn't that sound familiar? In a word, impermanence And two words don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. We don't know what our future holds, right? We hold on to the past and we bring it into the present as concepts in our minds.

00:23:26:24 - 00:23:51:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we we we carry this kind of this weight as we age. And this weight is like a suit of armor, right? The suit of armor somehow going to protect us because don't we know so much? I know who I am. I know what my skills are. I know what my what my future holds because of all these other things that I've done in my past.

00:23:51:15 - 00:24:21:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
No, you don't. It could all end like that. And in fact, it does over and over and over again. We do not know what the future holds. The past is helpful in some regard in the present, but it cannot predict the future. And in fact, both the past and the future can only be experienced in the present moment.

00:24:21:24 - 00:25:09:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The past as a concept in the mind. The future is a concept in the mind, and both exist only in the present moment. So what are we to do in this mind that is constantly future in itself and freaking out? And sometimes we call this anxiety. And what do we do with the present moment in mind that is also regretting things from the past, bringing statements about the solidity of what was into the present moment, which is not solid at all, at least from a mental perspective, which is the only perspective we have.

00:25:09:06 - 00:25:40:06
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So what are we to do? One of the core practices in mindfulness is derived from, again, the Buddhist teachings in mindfulness communities. There's what's called the Three Jewels, the Buddha, which is like the teacher, the idealized kind of like being, so to speak, that knows how to relate to life from the perspective of wide open space, right? That still human, but also resting in awareness from a place of non reactivity.

00:25:40:08 - 00:26:13:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The teachings themselves. Dharma right, is the second jewel, which is the kind of wisdom that we as human beings, the great wisdom, traditions of the world, be them, you know, the Christian desert fathers, the second and third century, the Kabbalah teachings from Judaism, Sufi teachings from Islam, right? Native American teachings about the oneness of humanity and the interconnect and the interconnectedness of us as animals with animals and the earth around us.

00:26:13:23 - 00:26:37:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
These are the great wisdom teachings of humanity, and they are not particular to any religion. So we have the kind of idealized human over here as the first jewel, and then we've got the second joy, which is the great wisdom traditions of the world. And then the third jewel is what you're building. And it's called Sangat, which means community.

00:26:37:09 - 00:27:10:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So every time you put out a podcast, you invite your world of people in to the shared experience of being together. And when they bring that shared experience in, they're sharing the 10,000 joys and the 10,000 sorrows. As my teacher, Jack Cornfield says, together, every person that listens to your podcast right now has a set of impermanent characteristics by definition that are rising up in their lives.

00:27:10:20 - 00:27:41:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
They've got the transition of life, they've got a baby being born or a parent or a family member dying. They've just gotten a new job or a raise or they just got fired and they no longer have income. All right. Their digest ing the food from lunch that will give them the energy to write the emails this afternoon.

00:27:41:05 - 00:28:22:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. This is all just process. We are interconnected with the world around us and Sangat is representative of community. And Vivek Murthy, the surgeon general, he writes about the epidemic of loneliness. If I don't think we should all jump in to becoming meditators and following a particular religion or or, or a particular way of viewing the world first, I think the first thing we should do is find a friend and have a conversation and then maybe find another friend and have another conversation.

00:28:23:00 - 00:28:42:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I think to recognize the suffering that exists in our world and to begin to alleviate that suffering, we should start by actually connecting with other human beings and saying, yes, I'm here for you. And by the way, also, I need help. Can we talk? Can we communicate?

00:28:42:06 - 00:29:02:15
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I can relate to everything you're saying. And I'm I'm curious. Do you do you kind of utilize your meditation and your mindfulness, like in the morning? Do you do it right away? Or how does it kind of on a practical level, come into play for you personally? How have you found it to be effective in your life?

00:29:02:21 - 00:29:26:05
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There are two methods that I utilize in my life that are available to all of us. One is called formal meditation. We develop a ritual of sitting down in a particular way under particular circumstances that create a bit of a ritual that's signified to the body and to the mind. Now is the time when I'm going to do this, like sitting down for a meal.

00:29:26:07 - 00:29:54:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Some people say grace, some people hold hands, some people take a big, deep breath. Some people just dive right in and eat a meal together. It's about ritual to kind of establish that this is the safe container for this particular experience. That's what formal meditation is. And so I'll sit formally every single morning, but then periodically on an as needed basis, I'll also sit and meditate.

00:29:54:19 - 00:30:23:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I begin by saying, okay, now is the time when I'm going to meditate. The second style of practice, which is called informal practice or in your life meditation. And this is like microdosing right throughout the day and all you're doing with informal meditation and is, you know, in in modern neuroscience tells us that we have a top down model of the world.

00:30:23:19 - 00:31:11:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
What does that mean? It means that the mind is how we experience our lives. That and this is not a an overexaggeration or some kind of spiritual statement. Actually, modern neuroscience tells us that we actually are only capable of processing our experience through the mind, right? So we're not directly experiencing anything. Our mind is interpreting data as it comes through each of the five sense doors telling a story about that data and asking the question, does it match up with previous information If it does not match up with previous information, three things can happen.

00:31:11:21 - 00:31:41:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
One, it just gets bored and moves on because it's nothing special is happening to it feels some sort of threat and it freaks out and turns into anxiety or depression. Three It gets invigorated because of the novelty of whatever this new story is coming in and that says need more, need more, need more, right? These are the three possibilities that we experience all day long, every day as pleasant, unpleasant or neutral.

00:31:41:18 - 00:32:04:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right? And so mindfulness allows us to kind of experience drop into a sense and set of awareness to a place of awareness of just about our. Does this feel pleasant? Does it feel unpleasant or am I neutral? Right? We can ask that question all day long. Am I feeling pleasant to my feeling unpleasant, or am I feeling neutral?

00:32:04:09 - 00:32:27:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And it can be that simple. You can just drop that question in to the zoom that you're having while you're pitching your show. Is this pleasant? Is this unpleasant or is it neutral? You can drop it into the tasting of an orange. You can drop it into the experience of sitting with your partner and having a conversation about their workday.

00:32:27:15 - 00:33:07:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You can drop it into the experience of laying down at night to go to bed all day long. These three filters, so to speak, of mind, are categorizing our experience. And when we become mindful of just this simple method, pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, we loosen the grip of of reactivity so that when something is unpleasant, for instance, someone cutting us off in traffic, we're not freaking out, honking on the horn and screaming at them and creating harm in the world.

00:33:08:01 - 00:33:34:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We just have that little gap, a tiny little gap where we go unpleasant. Welcome back. Unpleasant, You know, or that person on social media that Facebook person on social media that always spouts crazy political bullshit and you're like typing up your response and you're like, citing reference points from, you know, all of your, you know, your bubble of information.

00:33:34:04 - 00:33:35:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Yes.

00:33:35:06 - 00:33:40:18
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You've got the article ready to post straight into the comment. Yes, I've been there.

00:33:40:20 - 00:34:13:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I've been there, too. I went on Facebook for like eight years because of this. And I came back to Facebook from the perspective of pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, right When I read someone's post that spouting some idiot bullshit that I view as idiot bullshit and I'm typing up my response. I know that I've been caught, I've been hooked into reactivity and what am I doing on Facebook if I feed the war right?

00:34:13:17 - 00:34:55:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
How are we contributing to the benefit of humankind when we feed the war? There's a place for thoughtful opposition, right? But we can't get into the place of action of speaking and acting to the benefit of ourselves and other human beings. Unless we have a firm foundation of I know what's going on in my internal world, what is going on in my internal world, I activated, I am pissed off, I am typing this and my job is to make that person look like an idiot in front of all their friends that never, ever, ever works.

00:34:55:14 - 00:35:34:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There's a beautiful book called How Minds Change from an author named David McCranie, who did who explored the massive transition in California's view, both politically and culturally, about gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was opposed to gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was for gay marriage. What happened in ten years time for that shift?

00:35:34:06 - 00:36:06:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
David McRaney talks about this. And at the core of it, spoiler alert is a method of investigation that political activists use called deep canvasing. And at the core of deep canvasing is deep listening, right? So when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of war, they will come at us with the perspective of war.

00:36:06:09 - 00:36:27:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of I care about you and your experience in your life matter and I want to listen to you, and that doesn't mean that I have to agree with you, but it does mean that I will respect you and listen to you. That's where real change starts to happen.

00:36:27:21 - 00:36:54:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And that is the change that occurred in ten years time. With regard to gay marriage in California. Throughout our experience as human beings, there's that's part of the Dharma, right? That's human wisdom not coming from religion, not coming from tech, but just coming from one individual to another individual and saying, I care about you. I don't want to perpetuate the war.

00:36:54:03 - 00:37:22:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I genuinely want to connect with you. I want to build community. Our sangha is all beings on earth, and if we exclude one, we might as well exclude all of us. And it's from this perspective that we can actually take action and advance forward as a species to the benefit of ourselves and others. That's what mindfulness allows us to do.

00:37:22:15 - 00:37:28:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And there's tons of practices that we can explore and methods that we can explore.

00:37:28:16 - 00:37:50:00
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So let's break down. You talk about kind of like the little moments of where you can bring thoughtfulness into your day and you use the example of somebody cut you off or somebody you know on social media. But let's talk about your on set and you have a disagreement with whether it's a colleague or a, let's say, talent.

00:37:50:02 - 00:38:08:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
How do you how would you or how have you kind of had that ability to go pleasant, unpleasant, right. And use some mindfulness to get yourself into a better place when you're having a disagreement or a bad moment on set?

00:38:08:04 - 00:38:37:21
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But one method that we can use is to acknowledge I love this maxim. If you can name it, you can work with it, right? And absolutely everything in our internal world is workable, right? Part of the foundation of what I help other peoples discover about themselves is our internal world is is like a dictator. Unless we recognize that the dictator doesn't need to lead the way.

00:38:37:21 - 00:39:12:11
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right? The dictator is just an aspect of being human. It's called mind. And we all have this mind and it's a bunch of thoughts that proliferate in certain situations, paired with physical experience in the body. And when we push the dictator in a particular direction, the dictator fights back. So but we gently name the internal experience and we call it anger, for instance, and we just gently name it and we develop an attitude.

00:39:12:13 - 00:39:35:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger is unpleasant in the body, although it can be pleasant, seemingly pleasant for some people. Right. And there's no denying that either. Right? Some of us do feel that sense of anger. But on the other side of anger, when there's action and and it harms other people and ourselves, we have regrets. So we drop in to the space of saying anger is present quickly, just quickly write it.

00:39:35:14 - 00:40:23:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger, I name it. Anger is present. Take a big deep breath. Thank you. Host of Game Show or actor. I hear what you're saying. And we decide within ourselves in that moment that we are not the constricted accumulation of change yield energy that is that needs to be right. All that congealed, constricted energy is present in our system as anger, and we watch it from the perspective of awareness from the witness, we say welcome back.

00:40:23:08 - 00:40:50:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger gently in our mind as an attitude. Welcome back. Anger. I know you. I've worked with you before. You will continue to be present on and off for the rest of my life. So let's be friendly here and you're welcome to come and go as you please. Anger right? I'm not going to fight you. Anger. But what I will do is I will receive you in the wide open space of awareness and I will know your character mystics.

00:40:50:21 - 00:41:27:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Because when we feel anger in our body, it's never about the other person. It's never about the external situation. Anger is always us meeting ourselves in our internal experience. Always. There's never, ever, ever a situation where anger is caused by someone else. It's caused by the feeling we have when we encounter that extreme external force. It's our relationship to that external force that creates harm in our lives.

00:41:27:15 - 00:41:50:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So and it's our relationship really ultimately to the only force that forces that there are in our experiences, which are internal, the only thing we can ever experience in our awareness is the internal. So we say, welcome back, anger is present, take a big ass deep breath, recognize Anger's presence in our lives. Get better at recognizing when anger is present.

00:41:50:23 - 00:42:32:05
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And from that place of recognition and wide open spaces, awareness, we go now I will respond. Right. And if we can respond from the place of helpfulness, then great. We can respond from the place of neutrality and not causing harm. Great. If we respond from the place of harmfulness, that's okay too, because it gives us yet another opportunity to recognize anger's presence in our life and to relate to it in a in a more constructive, helpful way.

00:42:32:07 - 00:42:52:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We're not receding into the cave and becoming a monk. We're living our lives and we're growing with the experiences of our lives so that we can act and speak to the benefit of self and other. This is an ideal idealized state, and that's what we're talking about.

00:42:52:09 - 00:43:19:12
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Another scenario you and I both know you put your heart and soul into developing a project. A lot of people are trusting you. You have talent, you've told them that we're know, we're pushing this forward and they're trusting you, your partners trust you. You've spent a lot of time on this and nobody wants it.

00:43:19:14 - 00:43:22:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Yeah.

00:43:22:05 - 00:43:45:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
How do you how do you use your skills to kind of not feel tense and to not feel like it? Let me now say empty, but to not feel like all that time energy in a lot of cases as a freelancer, money that was all a waste.

00:43:45:13 - 00:44:13:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Thank you for that question. It's a great and important question for those of us that generate from our internal experiences, ideas and concepts that we believe the world should love. My father said to me long ago when I first moved to Los Angeles, he said, If you have just one good idea, you ain't worth shit, right? I love that.

00:44:13:17 - 00:44:44:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And what it does is it just creates a sense of humor around it. Okay? Like, yeah, it's just one idea. You know? That being said, when we spend money and time and energy and relationships trying to get someone to finance that idea, the sting persists. So how do we relate to that Sting One way to relate to the sting is to recognize VUCA, the nebulosity of why things don't work, right?

00:44:44:20 - 00:45:27:11
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There is a network of complexity within the entertainment industry right now, and as it's been the case, you know, forever, but it's particularly apparent in today's world. We referenced it earlier as VUCA, but what is NEBULOSITY? Why did someone pass on that idea? Why didn't it work? It's in some ways it's a fool's errand, right? So we acknowledge the nebulosity of why a thing didn't work as a can, as an aspect of the experience of creating something and putting it out into the world, and then the world saying no to it.

00:45:27:13 - 00:45:58:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we try to hold it a little less tight, right? We try to release the fist, the grip, so to speak, around what we believe to be a perfect idea that someone should buy and and give us money for right. And we reset our relationship to the idea and to the process of pitching from the firm Foundation of I don't know.

00:45:58:15 - 00:46:30:09
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. We reset. There we go. I don't know. It's nebulous. I done there. I could try to pursue all the different patterns and paths and understand all the different forces of the hundreds and thousands of people that participate in the thing. No process or I could just say nebulous, I don't know. And then I come back to the idea and from the place of a calmer, less attached position to the idea, we can then begin to refine the idea.

00:46:30:15 - 00:47:06:10
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We can start having conversations with other folks about the idea. It might be time to just drop the idea and come up with something completely different. But often isn't it really that there's something very interesting that many people responded to when you pitched the idea? But and that thing was what everybody kept talking about, and it was maybe a particular character that you wrote about or a particular style of hero's journey in the story that, you know, began with the ending first or whatever.

00:47:06:12 - 00:47:31:21
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we say, All right, what was the world telling me about this process that actually was kind of consistent across some of these communications that I had that I can actually lift up that aspect of the thing that I created and perhaps reform it and add new, fresh elements and perspectives into it. In Silicon Valley, this is called the pivot.

00:47:31:23 - 00:48:00:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You know, I've gone through multiple stages of investment for my businesses. I've watched three startups in my time in Silicon Valley, especially in Pre-seed investment. They're not investing as much in the idea as they are investing in the individuals, right? They're seeing people, founders of businesses as folks that can adapt. And here is the great word overused but still relevant.

00:48:01:02 - 00:48:34:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Pivot, right? What have we learned from the path we've taken to today and how do we apply those learnings to the benefit of ourselves and others with regard to this particular idea moving forward? We cannot adapt and pivot if we are stuck in the place of no one gets me or that idea was awesome and I should keep pitching that exact idea as the same way I pitched it that everybody passed on 100 times.

00:48:34:16 - 00:49:04:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Our life is a process. Ideas are conceptual, just like your belief that Steve is a person who is permanent and independent, when in fact really all you are is a process that's evolving over time because of impermanence concepts we bring out into the world and we try to sell our impermanent By their very nature. Children grow up because of impermanence.

00:49:04:08 - 00:49:15:01
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We don't want babies to stay, babies for babies to stay, babies which sleep in a sea of babies who can't figure it out. And then there's poop everywhere, all over the world. Yeah.

00:49:15:01 - 00:49:17:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, I don't think anybody wants that.

00:49:17:13 - 00:49:42:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Our ideas are like babies. We want them to grow up and to evolve. We don't want to stop them dead in their tracks. So we hold our ideas the way we hold a newborn baby. We feed it and we love it. And at a certain point, you've got to let the baby go. But also at a certain point, when the baby becomes a 14 or a 15 year old, you got to figure out what the baby's you.

00:49:42:19 - 00:49:56:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. And what the world is telling you about your 14 year old and how do we support the 14 year old to proliferate forward in the process of itself? It's the same thing with ideas.

00:49:56:14 - 00:50:02:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I think that's a great analogy because you can only take care of so many kids.

00:50:02:06 - 00:50:07:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You got to let some of those kids go. Some of your kids are assholes, right? Yeah.

00:50:07:16 - 00:50:17:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You can't take care of all of them. You start to, you know, you get to the Elon Musk stage. I mean, you're not the richest guy in the world. You got like ten kids. You can only take care of so many.

00:50:17:02 - 00:50:19:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So yeah, you can't rename all your kids.

00:50:19:04 - 00:50:31:03
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Ex Exactly So I think that's a great analogy as each, each concept is, is a little baby and then it grows up and you got to let some of them go at some point. I think that's that's a great analogy.

00:50:31:08 - 00:50:35:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
This is the law of impermanence and it's so helpful in every aspect of our lives.

00:50:35:22 - 00:50:59:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Yeah. How do you, what, what advice would you give for somebody who's kind of nervously waiting to figure out what their role is in this kind of changing media ecosystem? That's kind of a vague question, but, you know, you and I both know if you're under 30, you're watching TikTok and YouTube and Netflix and pretty much that's it.

00:50:59:03 - 00:51:21:21
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And if you are somebody who gets their work in the more legacy or traditional media, the cable networks or the broadcast, well, you know, life's going to be changing. And I think that's a big part of the problem with, you know, what's happening right now is people are watching content in a different way. We're still making content in a certain way.

00:51:21:21 - 00:51:45:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Not as many people are going to movies with the exception of Barbie and Oppenheimer. So I think we're kind of stuck in this mode of, okay, what do I do now? What do I do now? And you're right, everything you just said is right. How do you pivot? What kind of advice would you give to somebody who's in that kind of anxious mode of, okay, well, where do I fit in?

00:51:45:03 - 00:52:15:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Wow, what a beautiful question. I give this advice to people all day long. So, as you know, Steve, I've pivoted. I've been teaching meditation for 15 years to my friends throughout the entertainment community. And about a year and a half ago, the demand got so great and I was saying no, far too many people that I just decided that I needed to open up my my own life to support other people.

00:52:15:18 - 00:52:44:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So I, I work with executives and producers and and businesses to answer this question of how do we move forward and success in the face of VUCA, Volatility, uncertainty, complexity, ambiguity. So the first thing we do is we acknowledge VUCA. We don't know what is to come.

00:52:44:15 - 00:53:22:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We step back into awareness and we recognize let's talk about an individual, right? So we'll call this individual Bob. Bob is a show runner who's been extremely successful for 15 years. He's worked on many shows and he's not had a job for a year and a half. Bob is an expert in storytelling, but Bob is relying on external forces to validate his expertise.

00:53:22:09 - 00:53:53:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
He's saying, I'm going to wait for those forces to signal back to me that I'm okay and that my belief in myself as being essential to the success of those external forces, big media production companies, television companies that I am essential to their success, then they will come around to me as a key element that will help them regain their success in their own worlds.

00:53:53:22 - 00:54:32:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Bob needs to recognize that VUCA is actually happening for them as well, and so he needs to step back and say, What is it that I'm hanging on to? What we often are hanging on to is a sense of fixed identity. We believe ourselves to be a certain thing. I am a showrunner, I am X, I am what I am a husband.

00:54:32:16 - 00:55:05:00
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I am a father. I am smart, I am, I am. Whatever it is that I've perpetuated throughout my life and felt as if I could rest in that identity. But what is that identity and where is that identity? Upon further review, we begin to understand that that identity is in our minds. It lives in the abstractions of mind.

00:55:05:02 - 00:55:37:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
It lives in the non tangible abstraction of awareness, its thoughts, its physical feelings in awareness. It's tension, it's contraction. But yet on my LinkedIn page, it says all these things, right? Well, my LinkedIn page should be all you need to know about why you should hire me and why you should use me to solve your problems. Big Media.

00:55:38:01 - 00:56:01:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we look a little deeper at our LinkedIn page and we remove our connection and our attachment to the identity of our LinkedIn page. We can start to see actually a pattern. What is that pattern? When we remove our attachment to us being a particular way, the pattern is actual skills that are useful and viable in the world.

00:56:01:16 - 00:56:41:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Storytelling, for instance, for Bob, is not what's going away. Stories will forever be what makes us human. There will always be demand for stories, and arguably there is more of a demand than ever for story. It's just that we are attached to the old delivery systems. So when I step back in my LinkedIn identity and I go, okay, maybe that my stories and my belief that my stories are valuable to Netflix or Amazon or to, you know, CBS or whatever, maybe I step back from that and go, Well, what is living underneath that?

00:56:41:15 - 00:57:06:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I'm a fucking Ph.D. in storytelling, right? And then I start thinking, Well, what else is in my resume? Well, I've always wanted to work with kids or I've always wanted to work in the wellness industry, or I've always wanted to work in. I'm obsessed with a guy. What is going on in the world, Right? A growth industry, by the way.

00:57:06:16 - 00:57:33:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And then we start to ask the question, what? I have this kind of life earned PhD in storytelling. What if I just disentangled it from the delivery systems with which I've grown attached to which I've grown attached? And I ask the question, are there other delivery systems that will allow me to use these skills in ways that people and businesses will benefit?

00:57:33:18 - 00:58:01:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And the answer is hell yes, there are. In fact, there's more opportunity than ever for people like us. We've been telling stories our whole lives. The only obstacle towards our ability to do so is our attachment to our own identity. Our ego. We have to let go, drop back into awareness and reposition ourselves from the perspective of, Oh, I actually have a choice.

00:58:01:06 - 00:58:51:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And in fact it's infinite. But I do not have choice if I believe myself to be this label in this world. And I can only exist in that as this label in this particular world dropped the labels dropped the world's reassess, and from the place of wide open space reemerge into the world and take action. Have conversations with folks, put the word out there that you're an expert storyteller to 50 brands that you're interested in working with, all of whom in today's world are likely to need some form of expert storytelling in order for their brands to evolve to meet the needs of their clients and their customers.

00:58:51:06 - 00:59:30:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So that is what that's the advice that I give and it's the advice I took my sales man. You know, I haven't launched three startups because because I felt so comfortable that television was going to give me everything that I needed. I disentangled myself from the belief that television was the only way, and I've reconfigured my own relationship to the skills that I have developed over time and redeployed them back out into the world by communicating with my sangha, with my community, which is much larger than it ever was.

00:59:30:17 - 00:59:41:01
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And why? Because I actually engaged and I asked questions and I said hello and hey, I need help, or Hey, can I help you?

00:59:41:03 - 01:00:06:10
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Dude, that's awesome. I think that's great advice. I think that is advice that a lot of people, myself included, could use. All right. Before I let you go, I have to ask you how you're feeling about your Philadelphia Eagles coming up this season. I mean, look so close last year. Is this a Super Bowl year for the Eagles?

01:00:06:12 - 01:00:27:02
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Around the birth of my second child, I had to let go of the identity as an Eagles fan. So, like so right now I have three kids now, a three and a half year old talk about letting go. So every time I engage somebody that talks about sports, I go sports. Yay! And I don't really know what's going on in the sports world.

01:00:27:04 - 01:00:37:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I frankly, I barely watched any Eagles games last year. Super Bowl was great, by the way. Philadelphia had a great year last year's Super Bowl, World Series, MLS Championship.

01:00:37:23 - 01:00:41:10
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
That's true. I forgot to ask. Yeah, I've got to ask about the Phillies. Yeah.

01:00:41:12 - 01:01:10:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The only reason I know any of that is because everyone that I used to connect with about sports from Philly was talking about it on social media. My son. Right. My community. Yes. And I couldn't I couldn't I had to pay attention when folks when they got to the to the championship games. But prior to that, frankly, I was like, you know, I've got to change a diaper.

01:01:10:05 - 01:01:32:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Okay. I don't know what's going to happen this year, but I can't wait to connect with with more people and maybe watch more games. And but I'm not going to stay attached to it. And now come really doesn't matter to me that much. It's really just about being able to see the joy in other people's faces. I was at Disneyland the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl last year.

01:01:32:04 - 01:02:09:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right, with my kids. My kids were on a ride and we were with a bunch of other people. They went over to California Adventure and I hadn't bought the two pass ticket or whatever. So I'm like, You guys go over there, I'm going to hang back at Disneyland and I'm just going to get quiet. So I quite literally like the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl and I quite literally picked a bench at the entryway to the park and I put my earbuds in and I sat down and I started to meditate because I knew they would be gone for about an hour.

01:02:09:15 - 01:02:41:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So I'm sitting there, the weirdo sitting on the bench with a blank look on his face, just experiencing the presence of what was happening in front of me. And what started to happen in front of me was that bastard Patrick Mahomes and a parade of celebration. Oh, wow. Oh wow. That I had no idea was about that. And down Main Street, Disney starts happening in front of my face meditating.

01:02:41:23 - 01:03:17:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Wow, I have an Eagles hat off, right? And you know what? And instead of you know, and I say bastard, like, obviously. But like, what I witnessed was joy everywhere around me, right? A sea of the colors of the opposition, so to speak. And the man that right. It was Patrick Mahomes. I'm talking about it. Yeah. So. And the man that won the game literally walking directly in front of me as I'm meditating and I didn't feel hate and I didn't feel angst and I didn't feel anxiety.

01:03:17:03 - 01:03:34:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I felt joy because I was witnessing the joy of all these other human beings. I think that's the way we should live in the sports world, you know, And I think that's the way we should live in our lives. If we can feel joy for others, then we can actually feel joy for ourselves because everything is an internal experience.

01:03:34:14 - 01:03:50:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So when we feel joy for ourselves or for others, what are we actually doing? We're encountering ourselves in a joyful state, right? Waking up to that reality is a game changer. And I think mindfulness meditation can help folks in that regard.

01:03:50:19 - 01:03:58:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Yeah, I concur. All right. Last thing, tell me a little about Yum Crunch, your company that you have with your brother Mike.

01:03:58:13 - 01:04:18:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So Yum Crunch is a you know, we've won some Emmys for the food content that we've made over the years, nominated for nine Emmy and five James Beard Awards. We won two Emmys a couple of years back. Again, this is about the pivot, right? This is what's available to us. We looked at our skills and we're like, we have all these chef relationships.

01:04:18:24 - 01:04:42:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We have the ability to tell extraordinary food stories. Well, one of the frustrations that we experience with our food shows was big media wasn't giving our viewers the opportunity to eat what they see. So we created Young Crunch to solve that problem. So we work with some of the world's best chefs and influencers to create content that you can taste in.

01:04:42:18 - 01:05:23:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Go to Yum Crunch dot com. You can follow us on all of our socials at Yum Yum Crunch y you and Drew and see and experience the stories that we tell and have the opportunity to buy what you see. My consultancy is Tim Duffy Meditation Ecom. I specialize in science and mindfulness based peak performance for executives and producers and companies to re approach their lives from a firm foundation of being awake to the assets that they have available to themselves.

01:05:23:14 - 01:05:49:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Acknowledging the difficulties but not wallowing in the difficulties. Right. How do we advance forward in our lives if we're stuck in the old habits of mind, we can actually thrive when we let go of the old habits of mind, and we recognize the true potential of what we all bring to this earth to one another. So that's what I'm setting out to do with Tim Duffy, meditation Icon.

01:05:49:22 - 01:05:53:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Tim, thank you for doing the podcast one more time. I appreciate it, brother.

01:05:53:24 - 01:05:57:10
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Thank you so much. Much Love to You have a beautiful day.

01:05:57:12 - 01:06:31:19
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Before I go, I'll recommend a couple documentaries for you. Feel up sports. Give Johnny Football a watch. That's the Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix. Remember Big Johnny, Texas A&M, huge superstar, won the Heisman, then a lot problems when he got to the NFL. Very fun, very entertaining. And another one to check out the YouTube effect. It is a comprehensive deep dive doc by Alex Winter really shows you how powerful YouTube is and will continue to be.

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HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
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This week, I talk to producer, creative executive, entrepreneur and meditation teacher Tim Duffy, who shares some amazing tools and tips to overcome the anxiety, stress, anger, frustration, worry, and disappointment that comes in the crazy world we live in today. I also dig into the latest efforts to unionize reality TV, which is very complicated, and how streaming costs are going to keep rising and rising. Plus, I address the struggles we are facing in unscripted TV amidst the rising costs of streaming and the slow decline in broadcast viewing.

For information on Tim's meditation practices or to reach him, check out his website: https://www.timduffymeditation.com

And check out the amazing food biz he and his brother created as well. https://yumcrunch.com

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And if you're looking for a transcript of the episode, here it is:

00:00:00:09 - 00:00:22:21
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Welcome to another episode of the No Script No Problem Podcast on Bleav, the number one podcast network for professionals. Do you believe? Now, if you enjoy this show, please remember to subscribe and rate it with five stars. It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon music, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts. You also find it on Bleav.com and @bleavpodcasts.

00:00:23:01 - 00:00:48:12
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Follow me on social media, Twitter and Post News. It's @SteveBerkowitz and on Instagram and Threads @stevemberkowitz and also on Mastodon, Spill, Facebook, Snapchat and LinkedIn. If you're interested in advertising on the show, please contact believe at Leave dot com. All right, let's get started. I've got a terrific guest coming up who is going to calm your nerves and give you some great advice to weather the storm during these stressful times.

00:00:48:12 - 00:01:22:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
But before I chat with him, it's time for a little reality check. For the first time ever, linear TV viewership made up less than half of all TV usage in a measurement month. That is according to Nielsen's. The Gauge report for July broadcast TV accounted for only 20% of viewing and cable TV 29.6%. It was a record lows and down 5.4% and 12.5% respectively, versus the same period last year.

00:01:22:05 - 00:02:00:17
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
YouTube and Netflix lead the way in terms of your streamers. Streaming viewing rose 2.9% from June to July 2023 and was up 25.3% over the past year, accounting for 38.7% of total TV usage. That's huge. Now, the thing that's kind of interesting is that one of the shows that has kind of really given Netflix this bump, you know, a 4.2% increase in TV share over the course of June is Suits, which was a cable shows on USA Network right from 2011 to 2019.

00:02:00:17 - 00:02:21:03
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So it's pretty wild that this show, which picked up 4000000000 minutes of viewing in one week, was on USA and virtually no one was talking about it during its nine season. I mean, a nine season run is incredible, but it wasn't like it was, you know, winning Emmy after Emmy. It wasn't a succession, you know, it wasn't a Breaking Bad.

00:02:21:05 - 00:02:52:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And now it's like you look at comments people are making online and it's like suits. You'd think it's, you know, the greatest show ever. So it shows to me that it's not that people don't like broadcast programing, it's not that people don't like cable programing. They just prefer watching things on Netflix. They prefer watching things on YouTube. Now, the big irony here is that the average cost of subscribing ad free to a major streamer has jumped almost 25% in the last year.

00:02:52:08 - 00:03:20:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
That's according to the Wall Street Journal. All right. So after years of cheap monthly fees, right, that we all loved when we first got Netflix or we first got Apple TV Plus right where we first got that wonderful bundle of Hulu and Espn+. Right. And Disney Plus, that's all gone. Everybody wants to make money. Now. All the streamers need to make money, but they are now testing our loyalty, testing customer loyalty.

00:03:20:04 - 00:03:50:14
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And they are all raising their prices. An average assortment of the top U.S. streaming services will be worth $87 a month come this fall, while an average cable package will be $83. All right. So just like we just talked about how streaming has surpassed broadcast and cable in viewers right now, the whole point of streaming, we didn't want to pay as much as cable.

00:03:50:14 - 00:04:16:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Now it's all shifting back and we're suddenly paying more money for streaming than we are for cable. Disney is raising its prices for Disney Plus and Hulu, and that follows on the heels of Peacock NetFlow, X, Max, Paramount Plus and Apple TV Plus All have raised their prices recently. It's going to keep happening. They're going to keep doing this until Wall Street is happy.

00:04:16:05 - 00:04:48:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
The business model hasn't worked unless you're Netflix. This is also why you're seeing a huge increase in free ad supported television. Fast channels. Right to Be is a perfect example to be doing well. Moving on to the wild world of reality television, former Real Housewives of New York star Bethenny Frankel, she's causing quite a stir, talking to dozens of reality TV talent, trying to get them to unionize and get involved in potential litigation as well.

00:04:48:10 - 00:05:22:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
She is encouraging reality TV stars to boycott along with SAG, is asking for residuals on her shows. You know, she thinks reality TV stars should get residuals, just like actors and actresses. We have talked about reality TV. You unions for as long as I can remember. But what she's doing is going a step further. Bethenny is throwing accusations around at Bravo about a so-called cover up, you know, during an incident that happened on set.

00:05:22:20 - 00:05:46:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And she's hired two very high powered lawyers. They're accusing NBCUniversal, the parent company of Bravo, of exploitation and abuse. Among other things, they've asked NBC's lawyers to preserve discovery as part of their investigation session. It's getting kind of ugly. I can't speak to anything that has to do with the litigation or any of these things that they're accusing NBC or Bravo or the producers of doing.

00:05:46:05 - 00:06:13:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
But I can say that unionization when it comes to reality TV is complicated. That is a very nuanced topic that I've talked to dozens of producers and friends about. And I think Bethenny has some valid points when she talks about working hours and base pay rates. Those are valid points. But there are so many layers that come into play when you're talking about reality TV.

00:06:13:06 - 00:06:37:24
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, she makes a point about, you know, I think she said, you know, she only made seven grand for her first season on The Housewives. Well, Raquel, you know, as it turns out from Vanderpump Rules, made $361,000 this past season. You know, Vanderpump Rules huge hit, their biggest season ever, nominated for an Emmy. But that's a ton of money, I think, when you're talking about reality TV, it's such a diverse genre.

00:06:38:01 - 00:07:05:14
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You can't pay a contestant on The Bachelor or Survivor the same as you do a housewife in a small ensemble cast or you can't pay the same for a designer on HGTV as much as you do a family member on a TLC show or you do you pay the same for a guy who's on a boat on Deadliest Catch as you do somebody who's competing for love on 90 day fiance.

00:07:05:16 - 00:07:26:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So the genre so diverse that it's really hard to just throw numbers in there. You know, for a first season show. I think there's a lot of things that you need to take into consideration. But I do think rules and regulations are a good thing. And I think it's it's very valid to bring this up that we need to have that discussion.

00:07:26:22 - 00:08:15:07
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I don't know if a union is the right thing, but I certainly feel like a little bit more firm. Ground rules are good thing. I would be remiss, though, if I didn't mention that producers have no union as well in unscripted television. So no insurance, no overtime and no residuals, and that often goes unmentioned. It would be amazing to get residuals when the networks run reality shows all day long on E, Bravo, MTV, Lifetime, etc. In fact, the writers on Ridiculousness are asking to join the WGA, I believe, as they should, because that show runs night and day on MTV and those folks are literally writing jokes as lead ins to the clips.

00:08:15:07 - 00:08:42:13
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, other clip shows like America's Funniest Home Videos, 2.0, those writers are in the WGA. There's no reason why the folks on ridiculousness should be as well. But as you kind of can tell, it's a complicated issue. All right. Well, stick with reality TV, because why not? An article this past week and deadline had a lot of folks worried and a lot of people in reality TV are freaking out.

00:08:42:13 - 00:09:18:13
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
The headline to the article reads Doom and Gloom in Unscripted TV Producers battled challenging conditions As mid-sized firms face layoffs. It appropriately addresses the, quote, Slow down of green lights and cost cutting and quote, within the platforms and networks and how it has led to a slew of layoffs and a dearth of work in unscripted TV. The article references this drought hitting reputable companies like being a murray half yard hot snakes, high noon and propagate all very good companies.

00:09:18:16 - 00:09:45:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
One unscripted producer told DEADLINE, quote, It's the toughest time to be in unscripted that I can remember, unquote. Another said it was a, quote, brutal moment. I would agree. I would agree with both those producers. We all remain hopeful that things will rebound. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I will continue to tread water, keep my head above that water.

00:09:45:10 - 00:10:11:00
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Nobody should feel alone, though. That is for sure. If you're struggling out there, you're worried, Hang in there, man. And that's why I got Tim Duffy coming up in a minute. Tim Duffy is my guest. Tim Duffy is an extremely talented producer, creative executive. He's an entrepreneur here, he is a founder and he is a seasoned teacher of meditation and mindfulness.

00:10:11:02 - 00:10:46:15
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And that is why I wanted him to come on the podcast, right? So along with being co-founder of Yum Crunch and Ugly Brother Studios with his brother Mike. Tim is a peak performance and productivity specialist who combines 15 years of teaching meditation with 20 years in the C-suite to help executives, employees and organizations thrive. Now, as you'll hear, his style modernizes the ancient teachings of mindfulness and adapts them for modern professionals.

00:10:46:16 - 00:11:11:08
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So with all the chaos going on in both the entertainment industry and in the world at large, I think he's the perfect guest. So sit back, find a quiet place, relax. Tim's got some words of wisdom for you. Enjoy. Well, welcome back to the podcast, my friend, Mr. Tim Duffy. A lot has changed since the last time we talked.

00:11:11:11 - 00:11:35:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
We talked last time about mindfulness. But you are now big into this world of mindfulness and meditation. You're now, I would call you a guru in this space. And this amidst your your role on world shifts and being, you know, being a founder, being a co-CEO with your brother in that space, in this crazy world that we're in right now with media and entertainment.

00:11:35:20 - 00:12:02:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And I've talked about that on the podcast before, how, you know, everybody's kind of stressed out. I thought it was perfect for you to talk about kind of the way you deal with the stresses of this world with mindfulness meditation. So talk to me a little bit about when when the craziness comes into your world, whether it's as a dad or as an executive, how do you use mindfulness, how to use meditation to handle all the insanity that comes into the world?

00:12:02:03 - 00:12:17:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
First of all, thank you for calling me a guru, which means teacher, right? Which is true. I am a meditation teacher, but in our Western culture it also means douche bag. So do not call me a guru.

00:12:17:15 - 00:12:21:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Let me rephrase. You are not a guru. What's a better word? It's a better word.

00:12:21:24 - 00:12:28:02
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I'm. I am a mindfulness teacher. I've been teaching mindfulness for the past 15 years.

00:12:28:04 - 00:12:36:07
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Okay, I agree. I will take back Guru and I will just say mindfulness Teacher. Instructor. Yes. Okay.

00:12:36:09 - 00:13:05:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Do the woo woo of the mindfulness community is so funny to me, right? Because like, the thing about mindfulness is it's, it's a practice that we can learn and it doesn't really take any special skills. Every single human being on earth has the ability to be mindful. And the the my particular set of circumstances brought me to mindfulness because of my own friend's anxiety and depression.

00:13:05:06 - 00:13:32:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And when I was growing up, I had this kind of pervasive sense that I was not well. I had a fear of death, a constant fear of death when I was growing up, a general kind of like unsatisfactory ness that was like the foundation of my experience and the world outside of my internal world didn't quite know about it, right?

00:13:32:13 - 00:14:01:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I wasn't like talking about it because I was, you know, a young man with the bravado of youth and I was seemingly doing pretty well in school and and in my work life. When I went to college, my freshman year, I was a psychology major. I wanted to work with kids. And I took this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy from this old hippie dude named Norman Bradford.

00:14:01:10 - 00:14:12:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
He had he was like a he was he looked like a guru. He had flowy white hair, a long flowing, like Z.Z top beard.

00:14:12:13 - 00:14:14:05
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:14:14:07 - 00:14:44:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And he was just a hippie who was obsessed with creating different avenues towards wellness that weren't solely dependent on the methods of Western psychology and science. Right. Which is, of course, the language of the West is material science. So he kind of he started this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy. And every single week all we did was a new kind of meditation.

00:14:44:20 - 00:15:11:06
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And one week we'd be climbing up a tree outside and just sitting in a tree and listening to the wind. And another week we would be listening to poetry, and another week we would be doing African drumming, you know. So this was the privileged life of, you know, a private college in Baltimore called Gautier, where I discovered these traditions.

00:15:11:06 - 00:15:53:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I never looked back. I'd meditate, meditated every single day. Since then, I've accrued well over 10000 hours of meditation time in my life. I sit every single morning for about an hour in the morning. Meditation for me and mindfulness have become really kind of the backdrop against which absolutely everything that I experience is experienced. So that kind of dual path, right, of like growing up in the world, getting jobs and careers, and also simultaneously having this meditation practice in my life.

00:15:53:24 - 00:16:33:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
It was the the job and the career and the life and the death and the sickness. All of that was grist for the mill, for the meditation practice, right? We don't recede back into a cave and become a monk for ten years. Although that exists, most of us actually have to pay the bills. Right, And has a great teacher, a guru named Ram Dass, that he said, Remember your true nature, which is awareness itself and your Social Security number.

00:16:33:15 - 00:16:59:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And so it's the pairing of these these two things where mindfulness can really help us thrive amidst whatever is happening. And I and there's a lot happening in our lives right now. Steve. You know, not just in a post-pandemic world of how do we we're continuing to figure out how do we exist together, how do we re socialize?

00:16:59:13 - 00:17:10:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We're pretty far on the other side of this. Yet a lot of folks are still trying to figure out, you know, how do I get out of the loneliness cycle? How do I socialize?

00:17:10:24 - 00:17:36:20
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I think that's a great point. The re socialization, at least for me, you know, being on set, being around friends was something that you took for granted in 2019, right up until the pandemic. And then we all became Zoomers In one of your posts that I saw you, you were kind of saying when you were I think your point was that meditation and mindfulness is for everybody.

00:17:36:20 - 00:17:47:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
What do you feel like if you're a beginner? What is kind of that that first problem or that the first issue that people have with meditation or mindfulness?

00:17:47:06 - 00:18:36:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I think we step back even further and we go, Well, why do we need meditation and mindfulness, right, to develop an adversarial relationship with meditation and mindfulness is just a continuation of the reason why we come to meditate, meditation and mindfulness, right? Which is because we suffer the foundation of mindfulness, which of course is pulled from Buddhism. It's kind of the secular, if you will, set of practices that we're born out of a Buddhist tradition, of course, which was preceded by Hindu tradition and the Buddha, he said, We suffer because we are attached.

00:18:36:09 - 00:19:10:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And it begs the question, well, what are we attached to? And the answer to that is we're attached to permanence. We believe that things are going to stick around. They're going to stay that our our lives are going to stay the same when things are going really well. We want things to change when things aren't going well, but when things are going really well, we don't want things to change.

00:19:11:01 - 00:19:50:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So we suffer for things to change when things aren't going well. That means that when things are going well, they also have to change. This is the nature of our human life. We are born into this body and we get sick and we age and we die eventually. This is the starting point for why we suffer. We rage against the machine of our own human body and our attachment to being young or being pretty or being thin.

00:19:50:17 - 00:20:31:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right is creating harm in our lives. Being human is a sexually transmitted disease that always ends in death. What did the Buddhist doctor write on the death certificate as the cause of death birth? That makes sense. Yeah, right. So we we somehow think that we're going to evade this reality. Everything changes. Impermanence is a fundamental law of being human.

00:20:31:14 - 00:21:00:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And this is why we ask the question, how can I decrease my suffering? What is it that can come into my head that I can bring into my life and provide myself with some sense of relief? And to begin the process of relief is to acknowledge the fundamental truth of our existence, that it changes, that everything is impermanent.

00:21:00:24 - 00:21:33:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I think this is very much on display in the entertainment world for us right now. The old ways of living, of the consistency of getting a job, the consistency of a paycheck, right, the consistency of the big media machine, knowing how to monetize itself and thriving, you know, and yet simultaneously continually pissing all over the people and the companies that are feeding the machine of media.

00:21:33:10 - 00:22:13:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. We're in two of our deals are in strike mode right now, negotiating with this incredibly ill defined impermanent force called big media, who in and of itself, big media, doesn't know how to make a solvent business? How are we negotiating with a business that doesn't know how to monetize itself? Right. It's essential that we stand up and present ourselves back to big media and say we deserve to be paid, we deserve to be treated in equitable way.

00:22:13:21 - 00:22:48:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But at the same time, how are we negotiating with the machine that doesn't know how to run it? So at the core of the mindfulness, teaching is a is a concept that was derived from the US government. The Army College, I believe, created a term called VUCA at the end of the Cold War to kind of define know what is this thing that we're feeling in a term as a as a global community.

00:22:49:00 - 00:23:26:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And VUCA was developed and it stands for volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity, right? So volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity. Doesn't that sound familiar? In a word, impermanence And two words don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. We don't know what our future holds, right? We hold on to the past and we bring it into the present as concepts in our minds.

00:23:26:24 - 00:23:51:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we we we carry this kind of this weight as we age. And this weight is like a suit of armor, right? The suit of armor somehow going to protect us because don't we know so much? I know who I am. I know what my skills are. I know what my what my future holds because of all these other things that I've done in my past.

00:23:51:15 - 00:24:21:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
No, you don't. It could all end like that. And in fact, it does over and over and over again. We do not know what the future holds. The past is helpful in some regard in the present, but it cannot predict the future. And in fact, both the past and the future can only be experienced in the present moment.

00:24:21:24 - 00:25:09:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The past as a concept in the mind. The future is a concept in the mind, and both exist only in the present moment. So what are we to do in this mind that is constantly future in itself and freaking out? And sometimes we call this anxiety. And what do we do with the present moment in mind that is also regretting things from the past, bringing statements about the solidity of what was into the present moment, which is not solid at all, at least from a mental perspective, which is the only perspective we have.

00:25:09:06 - 00:25:40:06
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So what are we to do? One of the core practices in mindfulness is derived from, again, the Buddhist teachings in mindfulness communities. There's what's called the Three Jewels, the Buddha, which is like the teacher, the idealized kind of like being, so to speak, that knows how to relate to life from the perspective of wide open space, right? That still human, but also resting in awareness from a place of non reactivity.

00:25:40:08 - 00:26:13:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The teachings themselves. Dharma right, is the second jewel, which is the kind of wisdom that we as human beings, the great wisdom, traditions of the world, be them, you know, the Christian desert fathers, the second and third century, the Kabbalah teachings from Judaism, Sufi teachings from Islam, right? Native American teachings about the oneness of humanity and the interconnect and the interconnectedness of us as animals with animals and the earth around us.

00:26:13:23 - 00:26:37:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
These are the great wisdom teachings of humanity, and they are not particular to any religion. So we have the kind of idealized human over here as the first jewel, and then we've got the second joy, which is the great wisdom traditions of the world. And then the third jewel is what you're building. And it's called Sangat, which means community.

00:26:37:09 - 00:27:10:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So every time you put out a podcast, you invite your world of people in to the shared experience of being together. And when they bring that shared experience in, they're sharing the 10,000 joys and the 10,000 sorrows. As my teacher, Jack Cornfield says, together, every person that listens to your podcast right now has a set of impermanent characteristics by definition that are rising up in their lives.

00:27:10:20 - 00:27:41:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
They've got the transition of life, they've got a baby being born or a parent or a family member dying. They've just gotten a new job or a raise or they just got fired and they no longer have income. All right. Their digest ing the food from lunch that will give them the energy to write the emails this afternoon.

00:27:41:05 - 00:28:22:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. This is all just process. We are interconnected with the world around us and Sangat is representative of community. And Vivek Murthy, the surgeon general, he writes about the epidemic of loneliness. If I don't think we should all jump in to becoming meditators and following a particular religion or or, or a particular way of viewing the world first, I think the first thing we should do is find a friend and have a conversation and then maybe find another friend and have another conversation.

00:28:23:00 - 00:28:42:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I think to recognize the suffering that exists in our world and to begin to alleviate that suffering, we should start by actually connecting with other human beings and saying, yes, I'm here for you. And by the way, also, I need help. Can we talk? Can we communicate?

00:28:42:06 - 00:29:02:15
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I can relate to everything you're saying. And I'm I'm curious. Do you do you kind of utilize your meditation and your mindfulness, like in the morning? Do you do it right away? Or how does it kind of on a practical level, come into play for you personally? How have you found it to be effective in your life?

00:29:02:21 - 00:29:26:05
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There are two methods that I utilize in my life that are available to all of us. One is called formal meditation. We develop a ritual of sitting down in a particular way under particular circumstances that create a bit of a ritual that's signified to the body and to the mind. Now is the time when I'm going to do this, like sitting down for a meal.

00:29:26:07 - 00:29:54:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Some people say grace, some people hold hands, some people take a big, deep breath. Some people just dive right in and eat a meal together. It's about ritual to kind of establish that this is the safe container for this particular experience. That's what formal meditation is. And so I'll sit formally every single morning, but then periodically on an as needed basis, I'll also sit and meditate.

00:29:54:19 - 00:30:23:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And I begin by saying, okay, now is the time when I'm going to meditate. The second style of practice, which is called informal practice or in your life meditation. And this is like microdosing right throughout the day and all you're doing with informal meditation and is, you know, in in modern neuroscience tells us that we have a top down model of the world.

00:30:23:19 - 00:31:11:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
What does that mean? It means that the mind is how we experience our lives. That and this is not a an overexaggeration or some kind of spiritual statement. Actually, modern neuroscience tells us that we actually are only capable of processing our experience through the mind, right? So we're not directly experiencing anything. Our mind is interpreting data as it comes through each of the five sense doors telling a story about that data and asking the question, does it match up with previous information If it does not match up with previous information, three things can happen.

00:31:11:21 - 00:31:41:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
One, it just gets bored and moves on because it's nothing special is happening to it feels some sort of threat and it freaks out and turns into anxiety or depression. Three It gets invigorated because of the novelty of whatever this new story is coming in and that says need more, need more, need more, right? These are the three possibilities that we experience all day long, every day as pleasant, unpleasant or neutral.

00:31:41:18 - 00:32:04:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right? And so mindfulness allows us to kind of experience drop into a sense and set of awareness to a place of awareness of just about our. Does this feel pleasant? Does it feel unpleasant or am I neutral? Right? We can ask that question all day long. Am I feeling pleasant to my feeling unpleasant, or am I feeling neutral?

00:32:04:09 - 00:32:27:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And it can be that simple. You can just drop that question in to the zoom that you're having while you're pitching your show. Is this pleasant? Is this unpleasant or is it neutral? You can drop it into the tasting of an orange. You can drop it into the experience of sitting with your partner and having a conversation about their workday.

00:32:27:15 - 00:33:07:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You can drop it into the experience of laying down at night to go to bed all day long. These three filters, so to speak, of mind, are categorizing our experience. And when we become mindful of just this simple method, pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, we loosen the grip of of reactivity so that when something is unpleasant, for instance, someone cutting us off in traffic, we're not freaking out, honking on the horn and screaming at them and creating harm in the world.

00:33:08:01 - 00:33:34:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We just have that little gap, a tiny little gap where we go unpleasant. Welcome back. Unpleasant, You know, or that person on social media that Facebook person on social media that always spouts crazy political bullshit and you're like typing up your response and you're like, citing reference points from, you know, all of your, you know, your bubble of information.

00:33:34:04 - 00:33:35:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Yes.

00:33:35:06 - 00:33:40:18
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You've got the article ready to post straight into the comment. Yes, I've been there.

00:33:40:20 - 00:34:13:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I've been there, too. I went on Facebook for like eight years because of this. And I came back to Facebook from the perspective of pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, right When I read someone's post that spouting some idiot bullshit that I view as idiot bullshit and I'm typing up my response. I know that I've been caught, I've been hooked into reactivity and what am I doing on Facebook if I feed the war right?

00:34:13:17 - 00:34:55:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
How are we contributing to the benefit of humankind when we feed the war? There's a place for thoughtful opposition, right? But we can't get into the place of action of speaking and acting to the benefit of ourselves and other human beings. Unless we have a firm foundation of I know what's going on in my internal world, what is going on in my internal world, I activated, I am pissed off, I am typing this and my job is to make that person look like an idiot in front of all their friends that never, ever, ever works.

00:34:55:14 - 00:35:34:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There's a beautiful book called How Minds Change from an author named David McCranie, who did who explored the massive transition in California's view, both politically and culturally, about gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was opposed to gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was for gay marriage. What happened in ten years time for that shift?

00:35:34:06 - 00:36:06:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
David McRaney talks about this. And at the core of it, spoiler alert is a method of investigation that political activists use called deep canvasing. And at the core of deep canvasing is deep listening, right? So when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of war, they will come at us with the perspective of war.

00:36:06:09 - 00:36:27:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of I care about you and your experience in your life matter and I want to listen to you, and that doesn't mean that I have to agree with you, but it does mean that I will respect you and listen to you. That's where real change starts to happen.

00:36:27:21 - 00:36:54:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And that is the change that occurred in ten years time. With regard to gay marriage in California. Throughout our experience as human beings, there's that's part of the Dharma, right? That's human wisdom not coming from religion, not coming from tech, but just coming from one individual to another individual and saying, I care about you. I don't want to perpetuate the war.

00:36:54:03 - 00:37:22:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I genuinely want to connect with you. I want to build community. Our sangha is all beings on earth, and if we exclude one, we might as well exclude all of us. And it's from this perspective that we can actually take action and advance forward as a species to the benefit of ourselves and others. That's what mindfulness allows us to do.

00:37:22:15 - 00:37:28:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And there's tons of practices that we can explore and methods that we can explore.

00:37:28:16 - 00:37:50:00
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
So let's break down. You talk about kind of like the little moments of where you can bring thoughtfulness into your day and you use the example of somebody cut you off or somebody you know on social media. But let's talk about your on set and you have a disagreement with whether it's a colleague or a, let's say, talent.

00:37:50:02 - 00:38:08:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
How do you how would you or how have you kind of had that ability to go pleasant, unpleasant, right. And use some mindfulness to get yourself into a better place when you're having a disagreement or a bad moment on set?

00:38:08:04 - 00:38:37:21
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
But one method that we can use is to acknowledge I love this maxim. If you can name it, you can work with it, right? And absolutely everything in our internal world is workable, right? Part of the foundation of what I help other peoples discover about themselves is our internal world is is like a dictator. Unless we recognize that the dictator doesn't need to lead the way.

00:38:37:21 - 00:39:12:11
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right? The dictator is just an aspect of being human. It's called mind. And we all have this mind and it's a bunch of thoughts that proliferate in certain situations, paired with physical experience in the body. And when we push the dictator in a particular direction, the dictator fights back. So but we gently name the internal experience and we call it anger, for instance, and we just gently name it and we develop an attitude.

00:39:12:13 - 00:39:35:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger is unpleasant in the body, although it can be pleasant, seemingly pleasant for some people. Right. And there's no denying that either. Right? Some of us do feel that sense of anger. But on the other side of anger, when there's action and and it harms other people and ourselves, we have regrets. So we drop in to the space of saying anger is present quickly, just quickly write it.

00:39:35:14 - 00:40:23:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger, I name it. Anger is present. Take a big deep breath. Thank you. Host of Game Show or actor. I hear what you're saying. And we decide within ourselves in that moment that we are not the constricted accumulation of change yield energy that is that needs to be right. All that congealed, constricted energy is present in our system as anger, and we watch it from the perspective of awareness from the witness, we say welcome back.

00:40:23:08 - 00:40:50:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Anger gently in our mind as an attitude. Welcome back. Anger. I know you. I've worked with you before. You will continue to be present on and off for the rest of my life. So let's be friendly here and you're welcome to come and go as you please. Anger right? I'm not going to fight you. Anger. But what I will do is I will receive you in the wide open space of awareness and I will know your character mystics.

00:40:50:21 - 00:41:27:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Because when we feel anger in our body, it's never about the other person. It's never about the external situation. Anger is always us meeting ourselves in our internal experience. Always. There's never, ever, ever a situation where anger is caused by someone else. It's caused by the feeling we have when we encounter that extreme external force. It's our relationship to that external force that creates harm in our lives.

00:41:27:15 - 00:41:50:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So and it's our relationship really ultimately to the only force that forces that there are in our experiences, which are internal, the only thing we can ever experience in our awareness is the internal. So we say, welcome back, anger is present, take a big ass deep breath, recognize Anger's presence in our lives. Get better at recognizing when anger is present.

00:41:50:23 - 00:42:32:05
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And from that place of recognition and wide open spaces, awareness, we go now I will respond. Right. And if we can respond from the place of helpfulness, then great. We can respond from the place of neutrality and not causing harm. Great. If we respond from the place of harmfulness, that's okay too, because it gives us yet another opportunity to recognize anger's presence in our life and to relate to it in a in a more constructive, helpful way.

00:42:32:07 - 00:42:52:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We're not receding into the cave and becoming a monk. We're living our lives and we're growing with the experiences of our lives so that we can act and speak to the benefit of self and other. This is an ideal idealized state, and that's what we're talking about.

00:42:52:09 - 00:43:19:12
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Another scenario you and I both know you put your heart and soul into developing a project. A lot of people are trusting you. You have talent, you've told them that we're know, we're pushing this forward and they're trusting you, your partners trust you. You've spent a lot of time on this and nobody wants it.

00:43:19:14 - 00:43:22:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Yeah.

00:43:22:05 - 00:43:45:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
How do you how do you use your skills to kind of not feel tense and to not feel like it? Let me now say empty, but to not feel like all that time energy in a lot of cases as a freelancer, money that was all a waste.

00:43:45:13 - 00:44:13:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Thank you for that question. It's a great and important question for those of us that generate from our internal experiences, ideas and concepts that we believe the world should love. My father said to me long ago when I first moved to Los Angeles, he said, If you have just one good idea, you ain't worth shit, right? I love that.

00:44:13:17 - 00:44:44:19
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And what it does is it just creates a sense of humor around it. Okay? Like, yeah, it's just one idea. You know? That being said, when we spend money and time and energy and relationships trying to get someone to finance that idea, the sting persists. So how do we relate to that Sting One way to relate to the sting is to recognize VUCA, the nebulosity of why things don't work, right?

00:44:44:20 - 00:45:27:11
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
There is a network of complexity within the entertainment industry right now, and as it's been the case, you know, forever, but it's particularly apparent in today's world. We referenced it earlier as VUCA, but what is NEBULOSITY? Why did someone pass on that idea? Why didn't it work? It's in some ways it's a fool's errand, right? So we acknowledge the nebulosity of why a thing didn't work as a can, as an aspect of the experience of creating something and putting it out into the world, and then the world saying no to it.

00:45:27:13 - 00:45:58:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we try to hold it a little less tight, right? We try to release the fist, the grip, so to speak, around what we believe to be a perfect idea that someone should buy and and give us money for right. And we reset our relationship to the idea and to the process of pitching from the firm Foundation of I don't know.

00:45:58:15 - 00:46:30:09
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. We reset. There we go. I don't know. It's nebulous. I done there. I could try to pursue all the different patterns and paths and understand all the different forces of the hundreds and thousands of people that participate in the thing. No process or I could just say nebulous, I don't know. And then I come back to the idea and from the place of a calmer, less attached position to the idea, we can then begin to refine the idea.

00:46:30:15 - 00:47:06:10
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We can start having conversations with other folks about the idea. It might be time to just drop the idea and come up with something completely different. But often isn't it really that there's something very interesting that many people responded to when you pitched the idea? But and that thing was what everybody kept talking about, and it was maybe a particular character that you wrote about or a particular style of hero's journey in the story that, you know, began with the ending first or whatever.

00:47:06:12 - 00:47:31:21
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we say, All right, what was the world telling me about this process that actually was kind of consistent across some of these communications that I had that I can actually lift up that aspect of the thing that I created and perhaps reform it and add new, fresh elements and perspectives into it. In Silicon Valley, this is called the pivot.

00:47:31:23 - 00:48:00:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You know, I've gone through multiple stages of investment for my businesses. I've watched three startups in my time in Silicon Valley, especially in Pre-seed investment. They're not investing as much in the idea as they are investing in the individuals, right? They're seeing people, founders of businesses as folks that can adapt. And here is the great word overused but still relevant.

00:48:01:02 - 00:48:34:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Pivot, right? What have we learned from the path we've taken to today and how do we apply those learnings to the benefit of ourselves and others with regard to this particular idea moving forward? We cannot adapt and pivot if we are stuck in the place of no one gets me or that idea was awesome and I should keep pitching that exact idea as the same way I pitched it that everybody passed on 100 times.

00:48:34:16 - 00:49:04:08
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Our life is a process. Ideas are conceptual, just like your belief that Steve is a person who is permanent and independent, when in fact really all you are is a process that's evolving over time because of impermanence concepts we bring out into the world and we try to sell our impermanent By their very nature. Children grow up because of impermanence.

00:49:04:08 - 00:49:15:01
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We don't want babies to stay, babies for babies to stay, babies which sleep in a sea of babies who can't figure it out. And then there's poop everywhere, all over the world. Yeah.

00:49:15:01 - 00:49:17:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You know, I don't think anybody wants that.

00:49:17:13 - 00:49:42:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Our ideas are like babies. We want them to grow up and to evolve. We don't want to stop them dead in their tracks. So we hold our ideas the way we hold a newborn baby. We feed it and we love it. And at a certain point, you've got to let the baby go. But also at a certain point, when the baby becomes a 14 or a 15 year old, you got to figure out what the baby's you.

00:49:42:19 - 00:49:56:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right. And what the world is telling you about your 14 year old and how do we support the 14 year old to proliferate forward in the process of itself? It's the same thing with ideas.

00:49:56:14 - 00:50:02:04
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
I think that's a great analogy because you can only take care of so many kids.

00:50:02:06 - 00:50:07:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
You got to let some of those kids go. Some of your kids are assholes, right? Yeah.

00:50:07:16 - 00:50:17:02
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
You can't take care of all of them. You start to, you know, you get to the Elon Musk stage. I mean, you're not the richest guy in the world. You got like ten kids. You can only take care of so many.

00:50:17:02 - 00:50:19:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So yeah, you can't rename all your kids.

00:50:19:04 - 00:50:31:03
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Ex Exactly So I think that's a great analogy as each, each concept is, is a little baby and then it grows up and you got to let some of them go at some point. I think that's that's a great analogy.

00:50:31:08 - 00:50:35:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
This is the law of impermanence and it's so helpful in every aspect of our lives.

00:50:35:22 - 00:50:59:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Yeah. How do you, what, what advice would you give for somebody who's kind of nervously waiting to figure out what their role is in this kind of changing media ecosystem? That's kind of a vague question, but, you know, you and I both know if you're under 30, you're watching TikTok and YouTube and Netflix and pretty much that's it.

00:50:59:03 - 00:51:21:21
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
And if you are somebody who gets their work in the more legacy or traditional media, the cable networks or the broadcast, well, you know, life's going to be changing. And I think that's a big part of the problem with, you know, what's happening right now is people are watching content in a different way. We're still making content in a certain way.

00:51:21:21 - 00:51:45:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Not as many people are going to movies with the exception of Barbie and Oppenheimer. So I think we're kind of stuck in this mode of, okay, what do I do now? What do I do now? And you're right, everything you just said is right. How do you pivot? What kind of advice would you give to somebody who's in that kind of anxious mode of, okay, well, where do I fit in?

00:51:45:03 - 00:52:15:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Wow, what a beautiful question. I give this advice to people all day long. So, as you know, Steve, I've pivoted. I've been teaching meditation for 15 years to my friends throughout the entertainment community. And about a year and a half ago, the demand got so great and I was saying no, far too many people that I just decided that I needed to open up my my own life to support other people.

00:52:15:18 - 00:52:44:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So I, I work with executives and producers and and businesses to answer this question of how do we move forward and success in the face of VUCA, Volatility, uncertainty, complexity, ambiguity. So the first thing we do is we acknowledge VUCA. We don't know what is to come.

00:52:44:15 - 00:53:22:07
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We step back into awareness and we recognize let's talk about an individual, right? So we'll call this individual Bob. Bob is a show runner who's been extremely successful for 15 years. He's worked on many shows and he's not had a job for a year and a half. Bob is an expert in storytelling, but Bob is relying on external forces to validate his expertise.

00:53:22:09 - 00:53:53:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
He's saying, I'm going to wait for those forces to signal back to me that I'm okay and that my belief in myself as being essential to the success of those external forces, big media production companies, television companies that I am essential to their success, then they will come around to me as a key element that will help them regain their success in their own worlds.

00:53:53:22 - 00:54:32:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Bob needs to recognize that VUCA is actually happening for them as well, and so he needs to step back and say, What is it that I'm hanging on to? What we often are hanging on to is a sense of fixed identity. We believe ourselves to be a certain thing. I am a showrunner, I am X, I am what I am a husband.

00:54:32:16 - 00:55:05:00
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I am a father. I am smart, I am, I am. Whatever it is that I've perpetuated throughout my life and felt as if I could rest in that identity. But what is that identity and where is that identity? Upon further review, we begin to understand that that identity is in our minds. It lives in the abstractions of mind.

00:55:05:02 - 00:55:37:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
It lives in the non tangible abstraction of awareness, its thoughts, its physical feelings in awareness. It's tension, it's contraction. But yet on my LinkedIn page, it says all these things, right? Well, my LinkedIn page should be all you need to know about why you should hire me and why you should use me to solve your problems. Big Media.

00:55:38:01 - 00:56:01:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And we look a little deeper at our LinkedIn page and we remove our connection and our attachment to the identity of our LinkedIn page. We can start to see actually a pattern. What is that pattern? When we remove our attachment to us being a particular way, the pattern is actual skills that are useful and viable in the world.

00:56:01:16 - 00:56:41:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Storytelling, for instance, for Bob, is not what's going away. Stories will forever be what makes us human. There will always be demand for stories, and arguably there is more of a demand than ever for story. It's just that we are attached to the old delivery systems. So when I step back in my LinkedIn identity and I go, okay, maybe that my stories and my belief that my stories are valuable to Netflix or Amazon or to, you know, CBS or whatever, maybe I step back from that and go, Well, what is living underneath that?

00:56:41:15 - 00:57:06:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I'm a fucking Ph.D. in storytelling, right? And then I start thinking, Well, what else is in my resume? Well, I've always wanted to work with kids or I've always wanted to work in the wellness industry, or I've always wanted to work in. I'm obsessed with a guy. What is going on in the world, Right? A growth industry, by the way.

00:57:06:16 - 00:57:33:16
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And then we start to ask the question, what? I have this kind of life earned PhD in storytelling. What if I just disentangled it from the delivery systems with which I've grown attached to which I've grown attached? And I ask the question, are there other delivery systems that will allow me to use these skills in ways that people and businesses will benefit?

00:57:33:18 - 00:58:01:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And the answer is hell yes, there are. In fact, there's more opportunity than ever for people like us. We've been telling stories our whole lives. The only obstacle towards our ability to do so is our attachment to our own identity. Our ego. We have to let go, drop back into awareness and reposition ourselves from the perspective of, Oh, I actually have a choice.

00:58:01:06 - 00:58:51:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And in fact it's infinite. But I do not have choice if I believe myself to be this label in this world. And I can only exist in that as this label in this particular world dropped the labels dropped the world's reassess, and from the place of wide open space reemerge into the world and take action. Have conversations with folks, put the word out there that you're an expert storyteller to 50 brands that you're interested in working with, all of whom in today's world are likely to need some form of expert storytelling in order for their brands to evolve to meet the needs of their clients and their customers.

00:58:51:06 - 00:59:30:15
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So that is what that's the advice that I give and it's the advice I took my sales man. You know, I haven't launched three startups because because I felt so comfortable that television was going to give me everything that I needed. I disentangled myself from the belief that television was the only way, and I've reconfigured my own relationship to the skills that I have developed over time and redeployed them back out into the world by communicating with my sangha, with my community, which is much larger than it ever was.

00:59:30:17 - 00:59:41:01
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
And why? Because I actually engaged and I asked questions and I said hello and hey, I need help, or Hey, can I help you?

00:59:41:03 - 01:00:06:10
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Dude, that's awesome. I think that's great advice. I think that is advice that a lot of people, myself included, could use. All right. Before I let you go, I have to ask you how you're feeling about your Philadelphia Eagles coming up this season. I mean, look so close last year. Is this a Super Bowl year for the Eagles?

01:00:06:12 - 01:00:27:02
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Around the birth of my second child, I had to let go of the identity as an Eagles fan. So, like so right now I have three kids now, a three and a half year old talk about letting go. So every time I engage somebody that talks about sports, I go sports. Yay! And I don't really know what's going on in the sports world.

01:00:27:04 - 01:00:37:23
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I frankly, I barely watched any Eagles games last year. Super Bowl was great, by the way. Philadelphia had a great year last year's Super Bowl, World Series, MLS Championship.

01:00:37:23 - 01:00:41:10
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
That's true. I forgot to ask. Yeah, I've got to ask about the Phillies. Yeah.

01:00:41:12 - 01:01:10:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
The only reason I know any of that is because everyone that I used to connect with about sports from Philly was talking about it on social media. My son. Right. My community. Yes. And I couldn't I couldn't I had to pay attention when folks when they got to the to the championship games. But prior to that, frankly, I was like, you know, I've got to change a diaper.

01:01:10:05 - 01:01:32:04
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Okay. I don't know what's going to happen this year, but I can't wait to connect with with more people and maybe watch more games. And but I'm not going to stay attached to it. And now come really doesn't matter to me that much. It's really just about being able to see the joy in other people's faces. I was at Disneyland the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl last year.

01:01:32:04 - 01:02:09:13
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Right, with my kids. My kids were on a ride and we were with a bunch of other people. They went over to California Adventure and I hadn't bought the two pass ticket or whatever. So I'm like, You guys go over there, I'm going to hang back at Disneyland and I'm just going to get quiet. So I quite literally like the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl and I quite literally picked a bench at the entryway to the park and I put my earbuds in and I sat down and I started to meditate because I knew they would be gone for about an hour.

01:02:09:15 - 01:02:41:22
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So I'm sitting there, the weirdo sitting on the bench with a blank look on his face, just experiencing the presence of what was happening in front of me. And what started to happen in front of me was that bastard Patrick Mahomes and a parade of celebration. Oh, wow. Oh wow. That I had no idea was about that. And down Main Street, Disney starts happening in front of my face meditating.

01:02:41:23 - 01:03:17:03
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Wow, I have an Eagles hat off, right? And you know what? And instead of you know, and I say bastard, like, obviously. But like, what I witnessed was joy everywhere around me, right? A sea of the colors of the opposition, so to speak. And the man that right. It was Patrick Mahomes. I'm talking about it. Yeah. So. And the man that won the game literally walking directly in front of me as I'm meditating and I didn't feel hate and I didn't feel angst and I didn't feel anxiety.

01:03:17:03 - 01:03:34:14
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
I felt joy because I was witnessing the joy of all these other human beings. I think that's the way we should live in the sports world, you know, And I think that's the way we should live in our lives. If we can feel joy for others, then we can actually feel joy for ourselves because everything is an internal experience.

01:03:34:14 - 01:03:50:17
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So when we feel joy for ourselves or for others, what are we actually doing? We're encountering ourselves in a joyful state, right? Waking up to that reality is a game changer. And I think mindfulness meditation can help folks in that regard.

01:03:50:19 - 01:03:58:11
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Yeah, I concur. All right. Last thing, tell me a little about Yum Crunch, your company that you have with your brother Mike.

01:03:58:13 - 01:04:18:24
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
So Yum Crunch is a you know, we've won some Emmys for the food content that we've made over the years, nominated for nine Emmy and five James Beard Awards. We won two Emmys a couple of years back. Again, this is about the pivot, right? This is what's available to us. We looked at our skills and we're like, we have all these chef relationships.

01:04:18:24 - 01:04:42:18
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
We have the ability to tell extraordinary food stories. Well, one of the frustrations that we experience with our food shows was big media wasn't giving our viewers the opportunity to eat what they see. So we created Young Crunch to solve that problem. So we work with some of the world's best chefs and influencers to create content that you can taste in.

01:04:42:18 - 01:05:23:12
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Go to Yum Crunch dot com. You can follow us on all of our socials at Yum Yum Crunch y you and Drew and see and experience the stories that we tell and have the opportunity to buy what you see. My consultancy is Tim Duffy Meditation Ecom. I specialize in science and mindfulness based peak performance for executives and producers and companies to re approach their lives from a firm foundation of being awake to the assets that they have available to themselves.

01:05:23:14 - 01:05:49:20
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Acknowledging the difficulties but not wallowing in the difficulties. Right. How do we advance forward in our lives if we're stuck in the old habits of mind, we can actually thrive when we let go of the old habits of mind, and we recognize the true potential of what we all bring to this earth to one another. So that's what I'm setting out to do with Tim Duffy, meditation Icon.

01:05:49:22 - 01:05:53:22
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Tim, thank you for doing the podcast one more time. I appreciate it, brother.

01:05:53:24 - 01:05:57:10
GUEST: TIM DUFFY
Thank you so much. Much Love to You have a beautiful day.

01:05:57:12 - 01:06:31:19
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
Before I go, I'll recommend a couple documentaries for you. Feel up sports. Give Johnny Football a watch. That's the Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix. Remember Big Johnny, Texas A&M, huge superstar, won the Heisman, then a lot problems when he got to the NFL. Very fun, very entertaining. And another one to check out the YouTube effect. It is a comprehensive deep dive doc by Alex Winter really shows you how powerful YouTube is and will continue to be.

01:06:31:21 - 01:07:03:01
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
All right. That is going to do it for another episode of No Script, No problem for everybody listening. Please remember to subscribe, download and show it five stars. It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Amazon and tune in. You can also find it at Wycombe and I Believe podcast. Follow me on Twitter and Post News @SteveBerkowitz and on Instagram and threads @SteveMBerkowitz and also on Mastodon Spill, Facebook, Snapchat and linked and yes, seriously, TikTok coming for you.

01:07:03:03 - 01:07:16:06
HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ
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