Yeah, we go to church, but what does that *mean*? What are we exploring in our Sunday services? What has captured our hearts? How do we live fully into our faith community?Let's do some spiritual deepening!
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An award winning podcast where Pastor Matt Shultz and Rabbi Abram Goodstein show how progressive clergy can serve their community. Each month they share their religious theologies and experiences and discover that there is more that divines us than divides us.
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This Week in Heresy is a podcast that explores the margins of progressive thought, social justice, and religion. I share the stories of those who are different, on the margins, or doing spiritual and social justice work that just doesn't get a voice in today's media. The people I interview have a different take on spirituality, humanity, religion, and sexuality. They are clergy and laity from Pagan, Christian, Judaism, and many other traditions. They are also human beings with very human sto ...
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At the Future Christian Podcast, we talk to pastors, authors, and other faith leaders for helpful advice and practical wisdom to help you lead your church into the future.
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"Kiss Me I'm Psychic Radio" began in 2010 as a small BTR show. We have come a long way since then branching out to other internet radio shows finding our home of the last 2 years on Revolution Radio.as well as right here on BTR. I Christine have changed in many ways a work in progress and have left the 'psychic readings' to encourage people to grow, discern and empower themselves through God. I will still use my gifts that god has given me to help others who find themselves in situations of ...
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Co-creating Renewal in your church with Rebekah Simon-Peter
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In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Rebekah Simon-Peter, a passionate advocate for reconnecting spiritual leaders with their divine potential to co-create miracles. They discuss the importance of moving beyond mere church attendance to fostering deep spiritual growth and apostleship within congregations. She emphasizes the significance of …
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Amanda Udis-Kessler talks Progressive Christian Ethics
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What does it look like to live ethically as a Progressive Christian? In this episode, Amanda Udis-Kessler explores ethics from a Progressive Christian context, emphasizing the importance of loving our enemies and the connection to generosity of spirit as she believes Progressive Christianity is about striving to follow Jesus's path and working towa…
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Yolanda Solomon shares why Discipleship is a Holy Collaboration
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In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Yolanda Solomon, the Director of Discipleship at Epiphany Church in Brooklyn, New York. Yolanda shares her journey in ministry, her love for the Knicks, and the importance of creating a reciprocal discipleship culture within the church. They discuss the challenges of modern discipleship, the pitfalls of …
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Rob Hurkmans on What We Wish We Knew 20 Years Ago
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In this conversation, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Rob Hurkmans about his journey in ministry and the lessons he has learned along the way. They discuss topics such as their 20th anniversary of ordination, the faith context in which Rob was raised, his calling to ministry, and his current role at Trinity Streetsville. Rob shares his experience of being…
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Michael Pryse on Three Decades as Bishop
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Bishop Michael Pryse joins the show to share his perspectives on change and leadership in the Church from his three decades of experience in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada. He has helped the church navigate change, particularly in becoming more inclusive of LGBTQ+IA individuals. The conversation explores the challenges and pitfalls of th…
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Callie Swanlund on Healing from Clergy Burnout
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The conversation between Martha and Callie Swanlund covers Callie's journey in the Episcopal Church, the changes in her Christian experience, her current ministry context, and the inspiration behind her book 'From Weary to Wholehearted: A Restorative Resource for Overcoming Clergy Burnout'. The discussion also delves into the challenges of clergy b…
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Progressive Leadership
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Send us a Text Message. In this very special episode, Natalie sits down with (former) co-host Rev. Amanda Weatherspoon and guest Rev. Nancy McDonald Ladd, former RRUUC Senior Minister. Both ministers have moved on to new positions since the recording of this conversation, and Natalie gets all the deets on their view of ministry and how their progre…
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Jason Byassee on Whether There is a Formula for Mainline Success
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Jason Byassee to talk about church growth in a Mainline church context. Jason discusses the importance of churches embracing their own limitations and uncertainties. He emphasizes the need for churches to recognize that their only hope lies in the resurrection of Jesus and to be willing to give away their a…
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Alison Milbank on Why Small and Local Might be the Church's Way Forward
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In this conversation, Professor Alison Milbank discusses the concept of the parish and its importance in the life of faith. She shares her experiences growing up in the Church of England and the changes she has witnessed due to secularization. Milbank emphasizes the significance of the parish as a local community that brings together people of diff…
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Elizabeth Schrader-Polczer on Rethinking Mary Magdalene (Part 2)
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic continues her conversation with Elizabeth Schrader Polczer for the second part of a groundbreaking conversation on biblical scholarship. Continuing from last week, Elizabeth delves deeper into her research on the Gospel of John, Papyrus 66, and the evolving understanding of Mary Magdalene's role in early Christianit…
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Elizabeth Schrader-Polczer on Rethinking Mary Magdalene (Part 1)
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Elizabeth Schrader Polczer to talk about her groundbreaking work in biblical scholarship, particularly in how we see and understand Mary Magdalene and the Gospel of John. Elizabeth discusses the textual instabilities around the names Mary and Martha in John 11, visible in Papyrus 66, revealing intriguing in…
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Spirituality for the 21st Century Rationalist: A Conversation with Alexander Lang
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes back Alexander Lang for a deep and insightful conversation. Alex, a former PCUSA pastor, has transitioned from church ministry to a technology business aimed at fostering meaningful relationships. The discussion centers on Alex's recent experiences since leaving his pastoral role and delves into the themes …
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The Role of Music Leaders in Shaping the Future of the Church— A Conversation with Christopher Dawes
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes, Christopher Dawes, a veteran worship leader and musician in Canada. Chris discusses the challenges and pressures faced by church musicians and the unique role they play in worship. The conversation also explores the individuality and isolation experienced by church musicians and the need for better relatio…
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Why Podcast? What the podcast space offers the life of the church
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In this joint podcast episode with Vicars' Crossing and Future Christian, Kevin, Rob and Martha talk about why as busy pastors leading churches they carve out time to be part of hosting podcasts. What are the conversations that the church needs to be having? What has been difficult for the church to talk about? What do we see as the value of making…
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Terri Hord Owens on building a connected Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
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Rev. Teresa Hord Owens, General Minister and President of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) shares about the Covenant Project, which aims to increase participation and decision-making in the church, the Church Narrative Project, which focuses on changing the narrative of the church to be more inclusive and anti-racist, and the Proclamation…
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Pastoral Health, Leading Change, and Building Connection: Martha & Loren highlight season 15
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In this episode, Loren and Martha review the highlights of the season and discuss three broad themes: pastoral health, individualization versus connection, and leading change. They play clips from interviews with Kinsie Tate, Jonathan Foster, Ted Smith, Tessa Pinkstaff, Doug Powe, Scott Thumma and more to explore these themes. They discuss the chal…
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Brian McLaren on Leading and Living after Doom
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With the continued decline of churches and denominations, many pastors and church leaders are facing a future filled with doom. In this conversation, Brian McLaren discusses his new book Life After Doom and how the four possible scenarios for the future of our world mirror the reality of institutional church: collapse avoidance, collapse rebirth, c…
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How to Lead Faithful Innovation in your church
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In this conversation, Tessa Pinkstaff and Dwight Zscheile discuss their book, Leading Faithful Innovation. They define faithful innovation as the adoption of new or ancient practices that help the church connect more deeply with God, each other, and their neighbors. They emphasize the need for leaders to create an environment where the Holy Spirit …
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Episode 31: The Hamas-Israel Conflict revisited
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In this episode Rabbi Abram and Reverent Matt Shultz reflect on the vigil they organized to honor the unhoused individuals who passed away in Anchorage in 2023. Link to the vigil is here on facebook. Abram and Matt next debate the importance of cemeteries in a community. Then Abram and Matt revisit the conflict in the Middle East. They debate the m…
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New models of clergy credentialing: Jonathan Foster talks about the Open Table Network
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With the breakdown of institutions and denominations, faltering also are the credentialing methods for pastors and clergy. In this conversation, Jonathan Foster joins the show to talk about Open Table Network, a clergy network that provides credentialing and support for pastors, chaplains, and counselors who have been excluded or marginalized by th…
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Nichole Torbitzky talks campus ministry and what the next generation needs from church.
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University Chaplain and Professor Nichole Torbitzsky joins the show to talk about her work with college students, how they are engaging and identifying with Christianity, and what are the biggest "stumblingblocks" for students as they consider faith. She also discusses as Open and Relational / Process theology, the importance of community and spiri…
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Wounded Pastors: Carol Howard talks about the challenges clergy face
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Across American Christianity, there is a shortage of clergy, and this is exacerbated by financial struggles, housing issues, and the emotional toll of being a pastor. In this episode, Carol Howard joins the show to talk about challenges and trends in clergy health. She also explored the impact of these trends on younger clergy and the need for the …
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Ted Smith talks about the Past, Present, and End(?) of Theological Education
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Its no secret that the church as an institution in America is undergoing great change, and with it the role and function of clergy. In this episode, Ted Smith joins the show to talk about the history of formal theological education in the United States, the transition from the standing order to voluntary associations as the primary sociological gat…
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Doug Powe on Sustaining while Disrupting
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So, you're trying to sustain a church for continued health... while also disrupting the status quo... impossible, right? Not so, says Pastor and author Doug Powe. In this episode, we talk about his book Sustaining While Disrupting, emphasizing the importance of thinking like an outsider, taking risks, and putting aside convictions. Doug makes his c…
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Mark Feldmeir on Life after God (and Covid)
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Churches and individuals are facing a time of division and uncertainty, as we recover from the Covid-19 pandemic, political discord, and changing beliefs about God. In this episode, Mark Feldmeir delves into the realities of leading a progressive congregation in a conservative community, the innovative responses to the pandemic, and the denominatio…
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AI Faith: Artificial Intelligence experts explore AI's role in Church
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In this episode, Ryan Panzer and Jake Doberenz join Loren and Martha to discuss the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in the church. They share examples of how they are currently using AI in ministry. They also discuss the potential and possibilities of AI, including its role as a tool for helping to articulate faith stories and as a productivity…
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Liz Cooledge Jenkins talks 'Nice' Church Patriarchy
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In this conversation, Liz Cooledge Jenkins shares her journey from growing up in a Mainline Protestant church to exploring conservative evangelicalism and eventually returning to Mainline Protestant communities. She discusses the reasons why many people leave mainline contexts for evangelicalism and the challenges she faced within evangelical churc…
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Jessica Dominguez on Mobilizing Churches for Affordable Housing
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Is your church seeking to advocate for affordable housing? In this episode, Jessica Dominguez joins the show to talk about her work helping churches develop land for housing and what churches can do, big and small to make a difference. Beginning with a 20-year career in public education to a pivotal role in shaping Denver's housing priorities, Jess…
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Dave Boden on Belonging before Believing and Stirring Spiritual Curiosity
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In this conversation, Dave Boden discusses the importance of reaching people beyond the church and the need for a fresh approach to evangelism and discipleship. He emphasizes the concept of belonging before believing and the power of hospitality in creating a sense of community. Dave also highlights the limitations of logic-based arguments and the …
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Stressed Pastors Club: Kinsie Tate on Finding Balance and Hope in Ministry
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Pastoral ministry seems harder than ever. Data shows pastors are increasingly feeling burnt out while churches are also less inclined to want to change. What is a stressed pastor to do? In this episode, recorded at Phillips Theological Seminary during the Remind and Renew conference, Kinsie Tate, a licensed counselor and founder of Restore Clergy, …
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In this Episode Pastor Matt reveals that he has a Jewish great great great grandfather. Then Rabbi Abram and Pastor Matt discuss the role of advocacy among clergy. They then move the conversation about the Vigil they are planning in memoriam of the unhoused neighbors who passed away last year. They end episode with Matt unpacking the “He Gets Us” a…
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Womanist Ministry: Irie Session talks Preaching, the Black Church Tradition, and Womanist Theology
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In this episode, Rev. Dr. Irie Lynne Session, co-pastor of The Gathering Experience, a Womanist church in Texas, joins the show to talk about Womanism and how it has profoundly influenced her interpretation of scripture and her methodology in preaching. Recorded at Phillips Theological Seminary during the Remind and Renew conference, Dr. Irie discu…
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Dea Jenkins on living into the purpose God has placed on our hearts
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Do you believe you can accomplish what God has placed on your heart? This is the key question Dea Jenkins helps pastors and spiritual leaders through, encouraging them to trust their heart and trust the process, letting go of the results. In this conversation, Dea also addresses the challenges of harmful practices within church institutions and emp…
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Jay Kim on why digital tools don't bring spiritual transformation
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Since Covid, most churches have whole-heartedly embraced digital. But what are the effects of the digital age on discipleship, community, and understanding the Bible? In this episode, Jay Kim talks about the intersection of digital culture and the church, emphasizing the importance of maintaining analog, embodied practices within the church to fost…
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Navigating the Coming Wave of Church Property Transition with Mark Elsdon
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It's predicted by 2030, an estimated 100,000 church buildings will either be sold or repurposed. With this impending reality, Mark Elsdon asks a key question--will these buildings be gone...for good? In this conversation, Mark compares this shift to the decline of video rental stores and underscores the need for purposeful action in repurposing the…
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Understanding the Impact of Societal Changes on Congregational Dynamics: Insights from Dr. Scott Thumma
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In this episode, Dr. Scott Thumma discusses the evolution of congregational life and denominational shifts, drawing from 30 years of research. He reflects on his personal faith journey and the rise of megachurches, noting their advantages and the challenges smaller congregations face. The conversation also explores the growth of non-denominational …
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Justin Anthony and Why Leadership is a Myth
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In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, guest host Martha Tartarnic sits down with Justin Anthony, the rector of Chingford (UK) parish, to delve into the nuances of leadership within the church and why our pervasive language around leadership is actually ill-defined and problematic. The conversation aims to invite careful and considered th…
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Michael Graham on How Can the Church Navigate Societal Influences and Declining Participation
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In this episode, Martha Tatarnic talks with Michael Graham, co-author of The Great De-Churching about his journey from a fundamentalist upbringing to a more gospel-centered faith. Graham shares his transition from a focus on end times and culture wars to a tradition that emphasizes the core of the gospel and its implications for life. He discusses …
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Episode 29: What kind of American are you?
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Hi folks, In this episode of WDU Rabbi Abram and Pastor Matt cover a lot. Here is the short list - Matt and Abram discuss Christmas, Matt analyzes how people treat each other in pop culture and social media, Matt reveals his disdain for pickup trucks, Matt and Abram attempt to understand MAGA voters, Abram offers an update on the Israel-Hamas war, …
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Exploring the Intersection of Media and Faith: A Deep Dive with Amy Frykholm
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Guest host Martha Tatarnic leads a conversation with Dr. Amy Frykholm, senior editor at the Christian Century magazine. They discuss the role of media in serving the church, their personal faith journeys, and the mission of the magazine. The conversation also covers the redesign of the magazine, the themes of the Future Christian Podcast, and Dr. F…
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Are we asking the right questions? Season 14 Recap
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In the final episode of Season 14 of the Future Christian Podcast, guest host/co-host Martha Tatarnic joins Loren Richmond Jr. to reflect on the season's highlights and broader themes. The conversation includes a discussion on the church's role in a secular age, why sacred space matters, and the importance of maintaining wonder and awe in faith. Th…
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Jose Martinez on how ’Disciples Next’ looks to shape the future of the church
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Historically, the church has a tendency to colonize as a means to achieve growth. To break that dynamic, new models need to emerge. Enter DisciplesNEXT, a methodology from Rev. Dr. Jose Martinez and the New Church Ministry Team of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). In this conversation, we talk about how the model emerged, how it seeks to …
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The Future of Theological Education: Perspectives from Ulysses Allen
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What's the Future of Theological Education? In this episode, Rev. Ulysses Allen, the Director of Recruitment and Retention at Phillips Seminary joins the show to talk about the challenges faced by seminarians, including student loan debt and limited job opportunities. Despite these challenges, Allen highlights the importance of seminary education i…
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Andrew Root on why Pastors are focused on the wrong crisis.
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Most Pastors would agree that the American church in the midst of a crisis of decline, as lagging attendance, giving, and influence continue to cause havoc in local congregations. Yet, despite all this, Andrew Root argues the real crisis that should keep pastors up at night isn't shrinking budgets or lessening participation--rather it is the realiz…
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Sensitivity as a superpower: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on embracing your unique qualities for effective social change
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In this episode, Dorcas Chang-Tozun joins the show to talk about her personal faith journey, her thought-provoking book Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, and her profound insights on social activism. Dorcas passionately emphasizes the significance of acknowledging the unique experiences of sensitive individuals within the realm of activism, ur…
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Revitalizing Mainline Denominations: Vision and Direction in Church Leadership with David Emery
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David Emery joins the show to talk about why church structure is a significant obstacle in the church, as it can stifle the openness and potential for growth. He emphasizes the need for the structure to align with the vision and direction of the church, rather than becoming a hindrance. He also highlights the importance of theological humility and …
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Finding Healing and Redemption in the Midst of Church Closures with Gail Cafferata
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Rev. Gail Cafferata was heartbroken when the church she pastored closed its doors. It may have been the right decision, but it led to a million questions in her mind about her call, leadership, and future. In this episode, Gail interviews Loren about his own experience closing a church, and together they talk about some of the challenges, heartbrea…
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Midseason Review - Critiquing the Church is part of loving the church.
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In this mid-season recap of the Future Christian Podcast, hosts Loren Richmond Jr. and Martha Tatarnic reflect on the topics and guests featured so far in season 14. They discuss their process for selecting guests and the podcast's focus on issues relevant to churches and pastors. They highlight themes such as church planting, reimagining church st…
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RE: That TikTok - we don't agree with you!
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Send us a Text Message. Or, at least, it's a little more complicated than what you said. (See the full TikTok from @nononsensespirituality: www.tiktok.com/@nononsensespirituality/video/7275412454447009070) In this episode, Rev. Amanda and Natalie dive into Millenial/Gen Z church discourse. Namely, are we still attending church? Are our generations …
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Episode 28: The Israel-Hamas conflict
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In this episode Rabbi Abram opens up about the Israel - Hamas conflict and what it means for the Jewish community. Then to lighten the mood Rabbi Abram and Pastor Matt talk about D&D which means Dungeons and Dragons. These links will make more sense once you hear the podcast: Alaska Judaism Media: https://www.youtube.com/@alaskajudaismmedia7230/fea…
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