Ep 25: Adam Talks Patience & Podcasting and Speaks With Mike Cavaggioni, Host of the "Average Joe Finances" Podcast

Beyond The Microphone: A Podcast About Podcasters

In this episode of Beyond The Microphone, host Adam Baruh sits down with Mike Cavaggioni, host of the Average Joe Finances podcast. They delve into the importance of patience in podcasting, the journey from passion to business, and how building a strong network and system can lead to podcast success. Mike shares his personal story of transitioning from a military career to becoming a real estate investor and podcaster, providing insights into overcoming challenges, growing a podcast audience, and leveraging relationships for business growth.
Show Notes:
[00:00:00] Introduction
- Welcome to Beyond The Microphone with host Adam Baruh.
- Pre-interview discussion on the critical role of patience in podcasting success.
- How podcasting becomes a business and the work behind the scenes.
- The phenomenon of podfade and how to overcome it.
[00:05:00] Introducing Mike Cavaggioni
- Mike Cavaggioni, host of Average Joe Finances, joins the show.
- Discussion on the podcast's impressive listen score and ranking.
[00:06:00] Mike's Journey Before Podcasting
- Mike's background growing up in Long Island, New York, and his 17-year-long Navy career.
- His move to Hawaii and the decision to invest in real estate and achieve financial independence.
- The transition from blogging about his financial journey to starting a podcast.
[00:08:00] The Early Days of Podcasting
- Mike's initial challenges with podcasting, including content preparation and consistency.
- The realization of the need for a system and outsourcing editing to save time and avoid burnout.
[00:10:00] Overcoming Podcasting Challenges
- Mike's strategies for staying consistent and building momentum with his podcast.
- The importance of relationships with guests and listeners in growing a podcast.
[00:12:00] The Growth and Monetization of the Podcast
- Mike's experience with reaching a plateau in downloads and how he pushed through.
- The impact of bringing on notable guests and focusing on marketing efforts.
- How Mike's podcast became a source of income and connections for his other businesses.
[00:15:00] The Shift to Organic Conversations
- Adam and Mike discuss the value of organic, unscripted conversations over rigid formats.
- The benefits of not chasing perfection and learning through experimentation.
[00:17:00] Intentionality in Podcast Structure
- Adam shares his approach to creating Beyond The Microphone with a focus on manageable production.
- The use of tools like Descript for efficient podcast editing and collaboration.
[00:19:00] Mike's Recipe for Podcast Success
- How Mike developed a system for outsourcing and built strong relationships with his team.
- The role of networking in podcast growth and the use of personal devices as a CRM tool.
- The advantages of being a podcast guest to expand one's brand and reach.
[00:23:00] Advice on Working with Virtual Assistants (VAs)
- Mike shares his experience with hiring VAs, including challenges and successful strategies.
- The benefits of using platforms like Upwork to find and vet potential VAs.
- Tips on building a relationship with VAs and how they can help scale a podcast.
[00:28:00] Closing Thoughts
- Adam wraps up the interview, highlighting the key takeaways from Mike's podcasting journey.
- A reminder of the power of patience and the impact of building genuine relationships in the podcasting industry.
Connect with Mike Cavaggioni:
- Check out the Average Joe Finances podcast for insights on creating passive income and achieving financial independence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/average-joe-finances/id1525238870
- Connect with Mike Cavaggioni on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikecav

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