#10: Craig Savage, Part 2 - Finding Your Path Through Tough Times: Male Infertility, Depression and Suicidal Ideation


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This is a special two-part episode!

In part one we talk through fascinating topics such as Systems Engineering, Bionic Eyes and Teaching.

Part two (this part) explores really important, and often stigmatised issues, such as depression, male infertility and suicidal ideation. This is for you even if you’ve never suffered with these things because the things you learn here could save someone’s life.

Thank you for listening!


Dr Craig Savage is an Analytics Integrator, Instructor at Kaplan Business School, as well as serving as a Board Member and Community Organiser for Ultimate Australia.

Originally from Arizona, US, Craig fell into Systems Engineering where he seized the opportunity to be paid whilst studying for his doctorate in Electrical Engineering in Melbourne, Australia. After being forced back to the US through no fault of his own, he taught at community college and then made a second leap into the outback. Back in Melbourne, he worked on bionic eye technology before shifting into finance and data analytics.

Craig is far more than just an impressive CV though - his journey through depression and other crippling life setbacks is moving, inspiring and instructional. I hope you get as much value from our conversation as I did!

Below are signposts to some resources for people struggling with the issues mentioned today.


Signposts for depression & anxiety in the UK

- Anxiety UK

- Sane

- Mind

- Samaritans

- Crisis Messenger provided by The Mix (text THEMIX to 85258)

- Urge that you call 999 if you are feeling suicidal

- In Australia: Craig used Beyond Blue


Signposts for male infertility

- Him Fertility

- Fertility Network UK

- The Fertility Network

- Men’s fertility support Facebook Group


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Topics and Timestamps

00:00 Intro
00:51 Getting involved with frisbee
07:39 Dark calm
11:25 Moving to a better place
19:54 Thoughts on self-care
29:50 Saturday (the philosophy)
33:39 What success means
39:10 Progress
44:18 Frisbee community
47:42 Breakdown – infertility
54:45 Working through the pain
66:00 Light at the end of the tunnel
72:41 Message to the world
73:57 Contact
75:15 Outro



- A Very Brief Introduction to Systems Engineering

- Craig’s Linkedin

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