018 | State Sanctioned Torture, Whistleblowing & 9/11 | John Kiriakou

The Open Forum Podcast

John Kiriakou is the only person in CIA history to go to prison for crimes relating to torture - NOT carrying out torture, or giving the order for others to carry out said torture. Instead, John went to prison for blowing the whistle on torture. Join us as we talk about what led to John blowing the whistle, what exactly was/is enhanced interrogation, was it actually useful, as well as some of the less publicised, darker aspects of whistleblowing, such as multiple FBI investigations, malicious prosecution and more.

01:30 Intro
02:30 Blowing the whistle in 2007 on torture program.
05:00 Extremist groups in the 90's in Greece
09:00 Only 16 Arabic speakers in the CIA!
12:15 What were your next moves in intelligence after the WTC attacks
16:00 Capturing "Al-Qaeda's number 3 guy" & Extraordinary Rendition
29:04 Can we really say that there were no secret prisons or rendition programs prior to 2002?
32:30 Enhanced interrogation training (IE torture program)
35:18 The "13 steps" of enhanced interrogation
41:00 Does torture actually work?
43:15 You are quoted as saying in interviews torture *does* work?
49:00 your blowing the whistle wasn't only altruistic
52:15 Multiple FBI investigations against you & sentencing
57:30 Whistleblower treatment
1:07:00 False Flags & CIA operations - Northwoods, Bluebook Mockingbird etc. - governments lie...
01:09:00 9/11 - Al Qaeda or inside job?
01:12:00 Operation Northwoods false flags
01:17:10 Educate yourselves!

Before I add the links to different sources for some of the elements we touch on, John has written multiple books, both on blowing the whistle and other elements surrounding his time in the CIA. I'm going to pop a link here - it's not an affiliate link or anything - I'm not paid to add it nor has John asked me, but I do have a couple of his books and they make for fascinating reading, if you're interested in this kind of stuff and want to know more about John, by all means grab one of his books. I truly believe in the adage of we vote with our dollars and that we should support those who we believe in, if we can (times are hard for everyone!)
https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3AJohn+Kiriakou&s=relevancerank&text=John+Kiriakou&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1
It's the amazon link for his authors page - but you can get the books from other vendors or local book stores! I try to go local where possible and only use amazon for my books as a last resort.

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US lacking Arabic speakers
https://apnews.com/article/5b8b125043f122eb0625b2670f0702fc
https://archive-yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/lack-arabic-speakers-crack-us-security
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-intelligence-language-idUSTRE78I4P820110919
Abu Zabaydah in custody still
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-politics-and-media-still-get-wrong-about-abu-zubaydah
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-captured-tortured-and-cleared-abu-zubaydah-hes-still-in-gitmo
George Bush - we don't torture people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LtL9lCTRA&ab_channel=Veracifier
Which secret prison was Zubaydah brought to
https://web.archive.org/web/20190622221307/https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-did-abu-zubaydah-lose-his-eye
CIA 13 steps enhanced interrogation
https://www.foxnews.com/us/a-list-of-the-13-enhanced-interrogation-techniques-used-by-the-cia-on-detainees
CIA Tortured prisoners to death
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/dont-ever-forget-the-cia-tortured-prisoners-to-death-c787b13a4e88
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/08/tort-a25.html
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/
Daniel Elsberg - pentagon papers
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57341592
Selection of different operations highlighting three letter agencies operations conducted (or planned to be conducted on) the citizenry
Operation Northwoods
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
Tuskegee
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/index.html
Midnight Climax
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-cias-operation-midnight-climax-was-exactly-what-it-sounded-like-fa63f84ad015
Prism
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
Stellar wind
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2015/PSP-09-18-15-vol-III.pdf