Success Defind 017: What's Most Important In Business and Leadership- Ruel Joyner & Michael Owens


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Getting two unbelievable leaders to join the show at the same time leads to incredible conversation. That's what we have this episode, as Ruel Joyner and Michael Owens discuss reluctant leadership, stoicism, growing a family owned small business, handling 14 million visitors to the city of Savannah GA, and much more.

Ruel is the owner of 24e Design as well as Commissioner of the Georgians First Commission. Michael is the President/CEO of the Tourism Leadership Council as well as the Chariman of the Georgia Travel Association. We get past surface level conversation and go deep throughout the entire show.

You can reach out to Ruel at, or visit the company's site at Feel free to talk with Michael at, or visit and

If you have questions for me or know somebody who should be a guest on the show, email me at You can check out other episodes and clips of the shows at

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