Automation to augmentation: from lawyers acting as modems and machines as judges with Pia Andrews


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In episode no. 68 my guest is serial public sector transformer, Pia Andrews. We discuss:

  • how her pursuit of “truth” led her to the open-source movement and working in policy development;
  • how technological tools relate to our quality of life;
  • ‘open source’ – its philosophy and implementation and the idea of “clever hacks”;
  • how ‘rules as code’ addresses issues with enforcing regulation;
  • prescriptive and principles-based rules and when each are appropriate;
  • the connection between the cost of implementing regulation and its effectiveness;
  • how an API for prescriptive rules relating to anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism funding could have saved one bank $16M per year!;
  • how ‘rules as code’ make compliance more transparent by allowing for modelling, and how this could increase accountability of the public sector;
  • how current policy creation is insufficient and requires input from community and an example from France which incorporated co-design of policy;
  • Taiwan’s response to the introduction of Uber!
  • the importance of multidisciplinary teams in developing policy and how ‘rules as code’ facilities doing so in real time;
  • how ‘rules as code’ improves trust and compliance with administrative law and shifts the onus to government;
  • different public sector approaches to the “new normal”;
  • how the relationship between the public sector and its government drives outcomes;
  • whether a public sector should serve – the government, parliament or the people?
  • 3 things necessary to create an environment for innovation and solving wicked problems;
  • the connection between capacity and innovation, and Pia’s ideas about how to increase civic participation through a “civic gap year” and “policy difference engine”; and of course
  • Pia’s definition of legal innovation.

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