Can we Break Free? Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger


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Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger regarding his recent gubernatorial campaign in California. They discuss the difficulty inherent in running for political office outside of the two major parties. In addition, they touch on topics ranging from nuclear power to Covid, and how we might go about escaping the modern predicament we have landed in.
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00:00 Introduction
01:40 Bret misjudged Michael
04:20 Sponsors
05:45 Disappointment from election
07:40 Yang, Amash, Gabbard
10:20 IDW for political change and previous elections
14:32 Andrew Yang and lone wolf disease
20:55 Third party and hidden tribes report
31:45 Party identity
34:40 Lack of endorsements
41:12 Homelessness coverage is now more balanced
43:52 Michael Shellenberger on COVID
45:35 Bret's COVID position
01:04:20 Critics of Bret's ivm position
01:13:52 COVID dissidents
01:18:30 Nuclear weapons
01:28:10 Nuclear energy
01:33:52 Energy transitions and fusion
01:41:30 Spent fuel rods and fuel pools
01:48:40 Fukushima and Chernobyl
02:00:32 Deaths from Nuclear, fentanyl, COVID
02:04:22 Water cooled nuclear plants and coolants
02:08:25 Human factors and Three Mile Island
02:11:20 Dealing with spent fuel fires
02:20:40 Dry cast storage
02:25:20 Power grid down
02:37:40 WIPP project
02:45:50 What would Bret do with energy
02:50:00 Nuclear war inevitable
02:59:30 Bret's skepticism
03:03:00 Wrap up

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