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Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Carol Anderson, the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal Am…
 
Coco Das interviews Jonathan Friedman, PEN America, about their new report titled "Educational Gag Orders" about the onslaught of legislation restricting public education in the US about race, gender and American history (pen.org/report/educational-gag-orders). Friedman is the director of free expression and education at PEN America, where he overs…
 
Sam Goldman and Coco Das discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in the proper context of the fascist movement he is a part of. Recommended reading: Coco’s recent article The Rittenhouse Trial and Two Sides in Contention: A Beautiful Rising or Rising Fascism and Reflections on Kenosha by Paul Street. Follow Coco Das on Twitter at @Coco_Das and Paul at @…
 
Legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor Elie Honig discusses what we know about the January 6th insurrection and any chances for real accountability (hint: the DOJ/Merrick Garland would have to take action and there is zero indication that they are going to do so). In addition to watching him on CNN, you can follow on Twitter @eliehon…
 
Epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, discusses his recent piece for The Nation America as a “Shining City on a Hill”—and Other Myths to Die By with Sam Goldman. Follow Gregg on Twitter at @gregggonsalves. More recommended listening on the politics of the pandemic: COVID: A Case Study with Life & Death Stakes: Science, Epistemology, Conspiracy & Fascism.…
 
Valerie Elverton Dixon, Ph.D., discusses her recent essay When It Is Time to Break the Law with Sam Goldman, along with the abortion rights emergency and the strategy and tactics that will meet the current crisis. Follow Dr. Dixon's writings at justpeacetheory.com. Send your comments about the Refuse Fascism podcast to samanthagoldman@refusefascism…
 
Coco Das (@coco_das) interviews Ana Ramón (@ana_ramon89), Director of Advocacy for the Intercultural Development Research Association (IDRA) about the new legislation that takes aim at anti-racist and truthful teaching of social studies and other subjects for students in Texas. Follow IDRA @IDRAedu and Texas Legislative Education Equity Coalition (…
 
Walter Masterson is a comedian known for going deep into Trump territory. Follow him on Instagram: waltermasterson Twitter: @waltermasterson or TikTok: @waltermasterson and watch his YouTube videos. He talks with Sam Goldman about why the Trump movement is deadly serious. Then, Sam talks to Andy Zee, one of the initiators of Refuse Fascism and a ho…
 
Rafia Zakaria, attorney, political philosopher, and author of the new book Against White Feminism talks about abortion, Afghanistan, empire, individualism, white supremacy and more with Sam Goldman. Follow Rafia on Twitter at @rafiazakaria. Mentioned in the conversation: The Other Afghan Women by Anand Gopal. Rallies for abortion rights were held a…
 
The extreme Texas Abortion Ban caught most people by surprise. Next month, the Supreme Court is scheduled to hear a direct challenge to the 1973 landmark Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. This round table aims to sound the alarm on this assault on women’s fundamental rights, deepen understanding of the stakes, arouse people’s fighting s…
 
Ankush Khardori talks about the Merrick Garland DOJ and the (dim) prospects of real accountability for the Trump regime. Articles discussed include Merrick Garland's Moderation to Excess and Who Will Answer For this Cruelty? Read more of his writings at khardori.com. Then, Tony Norman talks about his recent article Fugitive Slave Act Redux: On the …
 
Anthropologist Dr. Nazia Kazi recently wrote What We Forget, a piece commemorating the global aftermath of 9/11 illustrated by Anuj Shrestha; Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Kazi about the US empire and related root causes of the fascist stew that is politics today. Follow Dr. Kazi on Twitter at @NaziaKaziTweets and read her book Islamophobia, Race, and…
 
A few days after the Supreme Court refused to block the extreme Texas abortion ban, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman), Coco Das (@Coco_Das) and Sunsara Taylor (@SunsaraTaylor) discuss the roots and ramifications of this dangerous new law. All abortions, without exception for rape or incest, are now illegal just two weeks after a first missed period; plus …
 
Sam Goldman interviews Khaled Beydoun, law professor and author of American Islamophobia: Understanding the Roots and Rise of Fear. Order the book at khaledbeydoun.com and follow him on Twitter at @KhaledBeydoun. Then, Sam speaks to Coco Das about her latest article on RefuseFascism.org: Genocidal and Deadly Serious: Dan Patrick, Texas Fascist Luna…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Matthew Hoh, former Marine and State Department official who served in and then was the first to resign over the unjust war in Afghanistan all the way back in 2009. Then, we're sharing an interview with educator Tamara Anderson about the upcoming Teach Truth Days of Action, a project of the Zinn Education Project happening Au…
 
Sam Goldman interviews writer Paul Mason about his new book: How To Stop Fascism: History, Ideology, Resistance. From the publisher: The far right is on the rise across the world. From Modi's India to Bolsonaro's Brazil and Erdogan's Turkey, fascism is not a horror that we have left in the past; it is a recurring nightmare that is happening again -…
 
Coco Das (@Coco_Das) guest hosts; Sam Goldman interviews Wajahat Ali, author of the new book Go Back to Where You Came From. Pre-order the book at wajali.com. Read his columns for the Daily Beast here and follow him on Twitter at @WajahatAli. Mentioned by Coco Das at the start of the episode: The Big Money Behind the Big Lie and Andy Zee on The RNL…
 
Trigger warning: this episode contains Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn’s testimony regarding what he encountered as a Black officer defending the Capitol during the January 6 failed fascist coup attempt. His testimony contains racial slurs which he was subjected to that are disturbing/triggering. Sam Goldman interviews Tim Wise, anti-racism educa…
 
Sam interviews Teri Kanefield, lawyer and author of multiple books and articles which you can read about at terikanefield.com. Follow Teri on Twitter at @Teri_Kanefield. Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews Derenda Hancock, abortion rights activist and defender of the one abortion clinic in the entire state of Mississippi (this interview originally aire…
 
Sam Goldman talks with Dr. Mia Bloom, member of the Evidence-Based Cybersecurity Research Group, professor of communication and Middle East studies at Georgia State University and a fellow with New America’s International Security program. Her new book, co-authored with Sophia Moskalenko is Pastels and Pedophiles: Inside the Mind of Qanon. Follow h…
 
David Atkins writes, "What will the institutions of liberal democracy do when Republican officials simply refuse to concede Democratic victories? The question isn’t as far-fetched as it may seem, and the reckoning may be coming far sooner than most expect." Sam Goldman interviews David about his recent article for Washington Monthly, talks about CP…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Jessica Mason Pieklo, Senior Vice President and Executive Editor at Rewire News and co-host of the podcast Boom! Lawyered. Follow her on Twitter at @Hegemommy. Then, The RNL Show’s Sunsara Taylor interviews long-time abortion provider Dr. Warren Hern. Follow Sunsara at @SunsaraTaylor and watch The RNL Show on YouTube. Send yo…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Dahlia Lithwick, columnist for Slate.com and host of the podcast Amicus about the Supreme Court: https://slate.com/podcasts/amicus Read her recent piece The Price of No Consequences for Trump: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/no-consequences-for-trump-garland-biden.html Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusef…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Chanelle Wilson, assistant professor of education and the director of the Africana Studies program at Bryn Mawr College. Dr. Wilson has been vocally arguing for anti-racist approaches in education and uses critical race theory as a tool for identifying oppressive structures in the educational system and beyond. Read her profi…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Anthea Butler, Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, columnist for MSNBC and author of a new book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America. Order her book here and follow Dr. Butler via her website antheabutler.com or on Twitter at @AntheaButler.…
 
Sam Goldman talks to Caroline Duble, the Political Director of Avow Texas (https://avowtexas.org/) about the abortion ban set to go into effect September 1st and the larger fight for abortion rights. Avow Texas' slogan is "Unapologetic Abortion Advocacy" (cheers for that!). Then, we play the speech given by the valedictorian at Lake Highlands HS in…
 
Sam Goldman interviews long-time activist and voice of conscience Dr. Walden Bello about Trumpism and the global spread of fascism. Dr. Bello is currently International Adjunct Professor of sociology at the State University of New York at Binghamton and received the Right Livelihood Award (also known as the Alternative Nobel Prize) in Stockholm in …
 
Sam Goldman interviews Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) about her new book American Fascism: How the GOP is Subverting Democracy. Then, Coco Das and Sam talk to a couple local organizers with Refuse Fascism chapters in Philadelphia and Texas, summing up their activism under Trump and going forward. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefasci…
 
Coco Das talks with historian Priya Satia about her recent article for the LA Review of Books: Fascism and Analogies — British and American, Past and Present. Priya Satia is the Raymond A. Spruance Professor of International History at Stanford University, focusing on the history of Britain and its empire. She is the award-winning author of Spies i…
 
Society wide repudiation of American fascism requires people from every corner of society speak up and take a stand. Coco Das (Contributing Editor of RefuseFascism.org) interviews Steve Hofstetter on getting loud in the face of fascist threats & noise. Hofstetter is an outspoken progressive comedian who unfortunately became the cover story of neo-N…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) about the spate of anti-trans laws across the country and the larger fascist agenda it's a part of. Order her book American Fascism: How the GOP is Subverting Democracy here. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.or…
 
Ruth Ben-Ghiat, professor of history at New York University and the author of Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present talks with Sam Goldman about the continuing effects of Trump's lies and how the entire GOP has changed in the aftermath of the Trump years and Jan 6th coup attempt. Sign up for her new newsletter "Lucid," follow her on Twitter at @…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Matthew Rozsa (@MatthewRozsa) about his recent article for Salon.com: Trump's Big Lie and Hitler's: Is this how America's slide into totalitarianism begins? which reads in part: "The Germans who 'believed' in Hitler's Big Lie did so not because he had any proof that Germany had been stabbed in the back, but because they hated…
 
Sunsara Taylor interviews Dr. Kristin Kobes Du Mez (@kkdumez), author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, about the rise of militant and militaristic patriarchy among Christian fascists as a major social force in this country (originally broadcast on The RNL Show). Then, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldma…
 
Sam Goldman talks to Talbert Swan (Bishop with the Church Of God In Christ and longtime fighter for justice, author of No More Cursing: Destroying The Roots Of Religious Racism) about the spate of voter suppression bills being enacted across the country. Follow Bishop Swan at @talbertswan. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or …
 
Maria Sanchez, a mental health professional and supporter of RefuseFascism.org, talks to Sam Goldman about the trauma of the Trump presidency and the enduring fascist movement on society, plus clips from the conversation between Sam and forensic psychiatrist Dr. Bandy Lee (editor of "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump”) from a few weeks ago. Since …
 
Sam Goldman interviews Andy Zee, host of The RNL Show on YouTube and a co-founder of RefuseFascism.org, to talk about the statement released this January by revolutionary leader Bob Avakian: A New Year, The Urgent Need For A Radically New World—For The Emancipation Of All Humanity. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGol…
 
It's the 50th episode! We started the podcast this past summer; the week millions began to pour into the streets rebelling against white supremacy and demanding justice for George Floyd. When we began a fascist regime was tightening its grip on society; we called the podcast "Inside With #OutNow" as the movement to get these fascists out became all…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Federico Finchelstein, Professor of History at the New School for Social Research and Eugene Lang College and Director of the Janey Program in Latin American Studies at NSSR. Dr. Finchelstein is the author of seven books on fascism, populism, Dirty Wars, the Holocaust and Jewish history in Latin America and Europe. His latest…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Umair Haque, Founder & Editor of Eudaimonia and Co, Bad Words, a book of nights, Leadership in the Age of Rage, and eudaimonia. You can also find him on Medium where he is a top writer in Life, Politics, Culture, Leadership. Follow him on Twitter @UmairH. This episode was released on the last night of the CPAC conference, sho…
 
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Bandy Lee, M.D., M.Div., a forensic psychiatrist, violence expert, and faculty member of Yale School of Medicine for 17 years who also taught at Yale Law School for 15 years. She was a research fellow at the National Institute of Mental Health, a consultant with the World Health Organization since 2002, and author of the …
 
Sam Goldman talks with journalist and author Sarah Posner (@SarahPosner) about Trump's impeachment trial. Read Sarah's recent piece, How the Christian right helped foment insurrection. Upon acquittal, Trump said, “Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun. In the months ahead I have much to share…
 
This urgent discussion was recorded February 8, on the eve of Trump’s second impeachment trial. What actually happened on January 6 when a fascist mob stormed the Capitol? What does that, and everything that lead up to it, tell us about the danger of fascism in America? How does the impeachment trial fit into this picture? And how can people act ac…
 
Sian Norris (@Sianushka), author of the upcoming book Birth Violence, talks with Sam Goldman about the tactics and links of anti-abortion movement internationally - including fascist coup participants in the assault on the US Capitol January 6. Then, Sam talks with Coco Das (@Coco_Das) about her new article on RefuseFascism.org: The “Left” Coalitio…
 
As Trump's impeachment trial looms but some progressives argue that holding Trump accountable for his fascist coup attempt would distract Congress from accomplishing other priorities, Sam Goldman talks with writer and historian Paul Street about his upcoming piece "The Anatomy of Fascism-Denial: 31 Flavors of Anti-Antifascism." Read "Thirty-One Fla…
 
Sam Goldman talks with renowned educator and author of multiple books Henry Giroux about his recent piece on Truthout: Downplaying Trumpism is Dangerous. Trump is out of power now but clearly there is still a need for people acting together to refuse fascism and demand a more just world. How close did we come to full-blown fascism? What are we face…
 
On Trump's last full day in office, Sam talks with Dr. Jo-Marie Burt, (scholar of political violence, human rights and transitional justice in Latin America; professor at The Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University and Senior Fellow at The Washington Office on Latin America). What can we learn about recovery from the Trump …
 
We're sharing a conversation that originally aired on Sunsara Taylor's show, We Only Want the World (WBAI and WPFW; listen to past episodes on wpfwfm.org), featuring Dr. Cornel West, Rev. William H. Lamar IV and Andy Zee. This discussion was recorded and aired the day before fascist assault on the Capitol January 6 but is completely relevant this w…
 
We're sharing a very timely conversation between actor/comedienne Rosie O'Donnell, Jason Stanley (author of How Fascism Works), Andy Zee (co-initiator of Refuse Fascism, host of The RNL Show) and Sunsara Taylor (co-initiator of Refuse Fascism, host of We Only Want the World). In the aftermath of the Trump-led attempted coup, and in the days leading…
 
Sam Goldman speaks to George Levy Mueller, author of Lucie's Hope, a memoir of his life as a child in Nazi Germany. He and his younger sister Ursula survived life in three concentration camps. Plus, a clip from William H. Lamar IV (pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C) speaking at Black Lives Matter plaza yes…
 
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