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Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan, Jacobin

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A podcast about political cinema and our crumbling world. Hosted by Will Sloan and Luke Savage. Exclusive subscriber-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus/overview
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Aiming straight for the zeitgeist, CIVIL WAR (2024) is a disaster movie for the post-January 6th America. But in deliberately removing any politics or ideology from his vision of a country at war with itself, Alex Garland has made a movie that is rigorously, even militantly unwilling to say anything.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.c…
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By the third entry of the God's Not Dead franchise, its creative team had clearly started listening to their critics. The result was a kinder, gentler right-wing Evangelical Christian drama that sought to heal divides... and failed at the box office. We welcome back New Republic writer and our resident God's Not Dead correspondent Alex Shephard to …
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When he emerged on radio, he was celebrated as a pioneering black star in a white entertainment landscape. By the time of the Civil Rights Movement, he was regarded by many a symbol of black subservience. In this solo documentary episode Cohost Will considers the career and thorny legacy of Eddie Anderson, the actor and comedian who played "Rochest…
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With the world in flames, it was time to have a little fun. We return to one of our all-time favourite discoveries, checking in on John Cleese's mind-bogglingly awful GB News chat show THE DINOSAUR HOUR to see how or if it has evolved since its debut. PLUS: What exactly do conservatives mean by "Marxism"? And Will uncovers a right-wing Evangelical …
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For seven weeks in 1936 and 1937, workers at the General Motors plant in Flint Michigan held a risky sit-down strike. A true David vs. Goliath story, their strike won recognition for the United Auto Workers and changed labour in the United States forever. With a newer UAW strike fresh in the memory, we discuss the BBC documentary THE GREAT SIT-DOWN…
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Imagine a world where shadowy forces completely disconnected from democracy control everything. Friends, you don't have to imagine, because this world is the setting for the quintessential '70s paranoia thriller, THE PARALLAX VIEW (1974).PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/513-parallax-101743154…
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We follow up our recent episode on a 1973 law-and-order semi-classic by examining its Bush-era remake. We found a gentrified and sandpapered WALKING TALL (2004), with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson" in a role "inspired by a true story" "suggested by events in the life of Buford Pusser."PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/512-walkin…
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In 1939, King George VI visited President Roosevelt to gain his support in the coming war. Some years later, it happened. As the Bill Murray vehicle HYDE PARK ON HUDSON (2012) unconvincingly argues, the Special Relationship was sealed over a hot dog. We dig up a forgotten piece of failed Oscar bait just to bury it all over again.BONUS Hyde Park on …
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Our Superdelgate patron tier has tasked us with discussed the sitcom THE GOOD PLACE, and it leads us down a dark and scary path of remembering culture and politics in the early Trump era. PLUS: Checking in with Garfield Eats, and Luke sounds off on Masters of the Air.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/510-2017-core-100993255…
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For decades, a cottage industry flourished in the subterranean depths of the American music industry: send a company your poem, and for a fee, they'll turn it into a song. Maybe the song will even be your entryway into the industry and the Billboard charts! But most assuredly it will not be. Was this industry exploitative? Did it produce art? What …
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An anti-imperial saga dreamed up by a Nixon-supporting conservative... a White Saviour narrative adapted to a time skeptical of White Saviours... folks, you could say that DUNE: PART TWO (2024) and its source material are a land of contradictions.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/508-spice-world-100540196…
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In 1991, over 100 of the the most famous singers, movie stars, an athletes in America got together to record a song for the troops in the first Gulf War. We take a visit to the consent-manufacturing factory and discuss the "apolitical" James Woods-hosted TV special VOICES THAT CARE: STAND TALL, STAND PROUD (1991).Watch the special here: https://www…
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Remember. Every day here, you're selling. Every thing you do, every interaction you have, every breath you take needs to be in the service of selling. But it shouldn't look like that. We're not that kind of store. Our customers don't appreciate being sold to. You should feel proud to work here. We discuss THE STORE (1983), by the god of cinéma véri…
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Against the backdrop of the incredibly boring 2000 election, the late, great Philip Seymour Hoffman went on a cross-country journey to see if George W. Bush or Al Gore represented America. The result was THE PARTY'S OVER (2001), aka THE LAST PARTY 2000 - that's right, it's an official sequel to the Robert Downey Jr-hosted documentary. We found many…
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In 1985, Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie brought some of their most famous peers under the same roof to record "We Are the World." To some, the result was the epitome of tacky celebrity philanthropy culture. But for the makers of the new documentary THE GREATEST NIGHT IN POP (2024), it was exactly what that title says.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - …
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What Dirty Harry Callahan did for the big city, Buford Pusser did for the rural south. We discuss the Silent Majority semi-classic WALKING TALL (1973), a Nixon-era Red State phenomenon that asks: who needs due process when you can carry a big stick?Good scenes from FRAMED (1975) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI8behel7BE&t=45s&ab_channel=Bananas…
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We've made a bit of a hobby of mining children's movies from the 1990s for ideology, so our Superdelegate patron tier sent us a challenge: discuss ANTZ (1998) and its vision of an anthill as an alienated '90s workspace. We happily obliged.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/502-rainy-day-in-99216863…
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In 1987, America was ready to look back on the Vietnam War... with laughter. We discuss GOOD MORNING VIETNAM (1987) and why it is one of the quintessential "boomer liberal" texts. PLUS: We check in on the state of Canadian politics (it's not good, folks).Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus…
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We mark an auspicious anniversary in frankly self-indulgent fashion, by revisiting one of our mutual favorite movies: Martin Scorsese's THE KING OF COMEDY (1982). We ask: does the future belong to Rupert Pupkin? And if so, how? PLUS: See, it started as a Michael Moore podcast...PATREON-EXLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/500-500th-9873…
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The American healthcare system is broken, but why? According to Robin Williams in PATCH ADAMS (1998), it's because the medical profession has lost touch with the healing power of laughter. We discuss one of the most cloying movies of all time.Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus…
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We discuss THE MENU (2022) and its place in the context of the current wave of "eat the rich" cinema. PLUS: we discuss Walter Isaacson's new hagiography of Elon Musk, and Joe Biden's wildly successful "I'm fit for office" press conference.Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus…
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It begins as an "eat the rich" movie, but turns into something very different. We discuss the movie that is burning up TikTok, SALTBURN (2023), and its odd take on class mobility.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/497-oxbridge-98117512โดย Luke Savage and Will Sloan, Jacobin
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We're in a contemplative mood on this episode, and there's no filmmaker better suited for such a mood than Yasujirō Ozu. We discuss his final film, AN AUTUMN AFTERNOON (1962), and how Ozu's seemingly narrow thematic and stylistic palette encompasses so much of the human condition.PATREON-EXLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/496-autumn-9…
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Are commercial considerations always doomed to taint art? And are commercial considerations really a taint? We discuss Spike Jonze and Charlie Kaufman's meta-movie ADAPTATION (2002) and the artist/hack dichotomy. PLUS: We mark the passing of the world's most famous minimalist sculptor and murder suspect.Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every…
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Can "anti-woke comedy" save America? That's what a conservative scribe for the Washington Times theorizes. We give the idea due consideration, and find some of the essential contradictions in conservative comedy. PLUS: Luke visits London, and tries to find the real London.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/494-joke-save-97392…
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The world can't stop discoursing about it. Hillary Clinton herself has championed it. And our Superdelegate patrons specifically requested it. It time for us to turn our attention to the most discussed movie of the past year. We talk about BARBIE (2023). PLUS: We bid a fond farewell to Ron DeSanctimonious."Seeking Social Democracy," the book Luke c…
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When he emerged on radio, he was celebrated as a pioneering black star in a white entertainment landscape. By the time of the Civil Rights Movement, he was regarded by many a symbol of black subservience. In this solo documentary episode Cohost Will considers the career and thorny legacy of Eddie Anderson, the actor and comedian who played "Rochest…
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Cohost Will asks your kind indulgence as he invites Jack Frayne-Reid (from the Reel Politik podcast) to has over one of his personal obsessions: the blockbuster 2014 Monty Python reunion show. They discuss MONTY PYTHON LIVE (MOSTLY) and how comedy can change and wilt under different social and political contexts.Check out Reel Politik - https://sou…
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The thing about mass culture is, it channels the ambient wisdom of its day. So we applied this theory to the new Willy Wonka reboot WONKA (2023) and looked to see what it said about our times. Friends... we were not disappointed.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/490-grindset-96483445…
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Your coworkers are spying on you. Your boss won't let you keep the expired food. The coffeeshop is charging you an arm and a leg to rent a laptop. In Aki Kaurismäki's funny and wonderful FALLEN LEAVES (2023), can a budding romance survive the everyday indignities of life under capitalism? PLUS: What would a British West Wing look like?Join us on Pa…
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From THE FLASH to SOUND OF FREEDOM and many more along the way, we look back at some of the movies that defined the podcast in 2023, and hand out the coveted Michael & Us Awards. What won Best Movie? Worst Movie? Dumbest Idea for the Podcast? Biggest Disappointment?PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/488-fourth-us-in-96020283…
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We ring in the new year by raiding the fridge for some holiday leftovers. It's become an annual tradition on this podcast to try to extract ideology from Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" franchise. With THE SANTA CLAUSE 3: THE ESCAPE CLAUSE (2006), we hit the motherlode.Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaela…
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To celebrate Christmas (and at the behest of our Superdelegate patrons), we took a flight on Victor Ziegler's Lolita Express to a big mansion in Long Island, where we watched Stanley Kubrick's EYES WIDE SHUT (1999). We had a great time revisiting a movie that only gets richer and stranger with every viewing.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.p…
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If society outlawed emotions, could we stop all war and conflict? This is the very, very stupid question at the heart of EQUILIBRIUM (2002), the dystopian extravaganza that introduced the world to the art of "gun kata."Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandusGet Will's new project "The Journal of Sto…
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For years, one political satirist has dared to push the limits of comedy with such groundbreaking fake-news headlines as “Matt Gaetz accuses Kevin McCarthy of behaving like an adult” and “Trump accuses media of not listening to the voices he hears in his head." But could that be set to change? With news that The New Yorker has laid off its resident…
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The French Revolution and the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte have inspired a lot of takes... so, of course, you can depend on Ridley Scott to find the least imaginative one. We discuss his lugubrious NAPOLEON (2023). PLUS: An update on Canadian politics, and some thoughts on the man who may be Prime Minsiter, Pierre Poilievre.Join us on Patreon for an…
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Is Popeye the Sailor a deep Jungian archetype? Did Sweethaven's tax-and-spend government lead the way for Reaganism? Is mankind divided between Blutos and Wimpys? These and other pressing political questions will not be answered in our discussion of Robert Altman's POPEYE (1980).PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/482-smorgasb…
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In the lead-up to the 2003 Iraq War, HBO made a movie about the lead-up to the first Gulf War, from the perspective of its most important factor: CNN. In LIVE FROM BAGHDAD (2002), Michael Keaton and his team of CNN reporters are Davids against the Goliaths that are establishment media... and the Iraqi security state. We discuss a mind-bogglingly aw…
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The boys begin by hashing out plans for the possibly-will-never-exist-but-also-possibly-will-exist-one-day "Michael & Us: The Book." Then, they move on to Christopher Nolan's OPPENHEIMER (2023), and try to identify the ideological outer-limits of a liberal political blockbuster circa 2023.PATREON EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/94…
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Ed Harris is a senator with presidential ambitions. Diane Keaton is the love of his life, but uncomfortable in politics. And with the White House in his grasp, his campaign is about to be rattled by a very, very stupid revelation from her past. We discuss Michael Lindsay-Hogg's RUNNING MATES (1992), a movie that emerged straight from the primordial…
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The old saying goes that "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," but it helps if the men are very, very stupid. We discuss Martin Scorsese's KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON, in which the architect of a Native American genocide finds an easy pawn in one of the lowest-IQ protagonists in movie history.Join us on Patr…
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By popular demand, we discuss one of the most beloved movies of the '90s (and a movie Luke had never seen!): Michael Mann's HEAT. Does the line between "cop" and "criminal" start to blur? You'll have to listen to find out. PLUS: The boys come to blows over Ridley Scott (sort of).PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/93531453…
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Everything is terrible, so we watched MOUSE HUNT (1997). PLUS: Can AIPAC knock out "the Squad" from Congress? Why is IDF propaganda so bad?? And how do Democratic insiders see their path to re-election???PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/476-of-mice-and-93079709โดย Luke Savage and Will Sloan, Jacobin
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We've talked a lot on this podcast about "the end of history" and "lost futures," but how about a world with literally no future? We discuss CHILDREN OF MEN (2006). PLUS: Society is becoming more politicized. What does this mean?WINDSOR: Luke will be in Windsor to promote his new book Seeking Social Democracy. See him Sunday, November 19 at 5pm at …
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Reviled upon its first release, Richard Kelly's dystopian sci-fi satire SOUTHLAND TALES (2006) has earned a cult following that sees in it a prophetic vision. We wade through the soup of its sounds and images and debate what, if anything, this collection of late-Bush-era sounds and images is saying. This one has been a long time coming, folks!PATRE…
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What if Britain's notorious right-wing GB News channel gave fading comedy hero and current "anti-woke" nuisance John Cleese a weekly show to do whatever he wants? Folks... the results may surprise you. We discuss the first few episodes THE DINOSAUR HOUR, the Monty Python legend's baffling new show. PLUS: Checking in on the Doug Burgum and Chris Chr…
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Luke speaks to former McKinsey consultant turned whistleblower Garrison Lovely about his September cover story in The Nation magazine, the secretive but hugely influential business of elite management consulting, and what he saw inside the world's most prestigious — and notorious — management consulting firm.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE BONUS - https://www.pa…
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While the rest of us were locked indoors, Boris Johnson and his staff were enjoying lockdown-era parties. The ensuing scandal helped topple his premiership. We discuss the new TV movie PARTYGATE (2023), and reflect on how the former British Prime Minister failed to "democratize the hedonism." PLUS: We find a choice bit of forgotten Alexandra Pelosi…
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It's Halloween, so we offer a fond nod of the hat to our old old friend Count Dracula by discussing NOSFERATU, PHANTOM DER NACHT (1979) - and because we've both just read Werner Herzog's new autobiography, we discuss how its depiction of science vs. the unknown fits squarely into the larger Herzog project. PLUS: More reflections on the crisis in Ga…
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In this special interview episode, Luke talks to Ettingermentum about the defining figure of modern Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. They discuss how Netanyahu's long political career has fundamentally reshaped Israeli society, and how the October 7 attack has changed his legacy.PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - GET IT HERE: https://www.patreon…
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