พอดคาสท์ Eula ชั้นนำ (2024)

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That's a Wrap! End of Season One 15:22

1+ y ago15:22

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This is the final episode of our 10 part series on End User License Agreements or EULAs for short. I'm Mark Miller, Executive Producer and host of "That's in My EULA??" When Joel MacMull and I thought about this series, our assumption was that we'd reach a point where the agreements we were analyzing would start to look alike, and that's pretty muc…

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ChatGPT take Steven Schwartz to Court 31:19

1+ y ago31:19

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The transcript and resources for this episode are available at WhatsInMyEULA.com. There was a historical case presented in federal court in New York City last week. Lawyer Steven Schwartz was hauled into court for using unresearched, unsubstantiated output from ChatGPT to defend a client. For those of us following the case, it's a chance to get a f…

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Hey, Charles Schwab! Is that really in your EULA?? 15:39

1+ y ago15:39

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You can subscribe to have access to all episodes of "That's in my EULA??" on your favorite audio streaming platform, or go directly to the website at https://whatsinmyeula.com/. All free, all ungated. From Mark Miller: As I started looking at the Charles Schwab terms of agreemnt, I started thinking, "This is what I expected." This is a financial in…

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Hey Canva! You’ve got a really good EULA. 25:53

1+ y ago25:53

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Mark Miller: You and I have been discussing, will we ever see anything that's not onerous or incomprehensible. This looks like something written by people for people. Joel MacMull: That's exactly right. We have seen some real dogs over the last two months and this was a pleasant surprise. And what's really interesting about it, and we're going to h…

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Hey Amazon! Is that really in my EULA?? 20:37

1+ y ago20:37

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Joel MacMull: Our listeners listening with care may say, these guys can't even get on the same page as to what the appropriate Amazon Terms of Service are necessarily that would apply to the average bear, but I would submit to you that in of itself is demonstrative of the larger issue of just how complex and how utterly unconscionable, and frankly …

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Hey, Zoom! Is that really in your EULA?? 24:30

1+ y ago24:30

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It is rare, that I will give a hat tip to good lawyering. But there's a lot of great things going on in this paragraph, and it's sub paragraphs, that I certainly must, in the interest of full candor, acknowledge is a pretty smart, impressive series of provisions. Now, that doesn't mean that they're not particularly onerous, to someone who's adverse…

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You're kidding me... that's in Slack's terms of agreement? 28:44

1+ y ago28:44

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We're choosing to talk about Slack because virtually every technology company is using Slack. It's ubiquitous. It's almost like de facto standard for communication. One of the things that I found, and maybe you appreciated this too, is when I went through the documentation, just pages and pages and addendums, whatever. But it's not legalese. It's n…

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Experian, Transunion, and Equifax: What's in their terms of service? 23:04

1+ y ago23:04

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From lawyer Joel MacMull: These three entities - Experian, Transunion, Equifax - whether we like it or not, sit on a lot of personal information of ours. I don't know, frankly, the authority by which they're able to collect that information. We certainly know that they sell that information, but there's no way for us short of falling off the grid i…

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YouTube and Google: What's in their EULA? 24:14

1+ y ago24:14

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Get the full transcript at : whatsinmyeula.com Mark Miller (MM) I tried to read through the terms of agreement for YouTube. There's obfuscation going on here on purpose. Joel MacMull (JM) I agree with you wholeheartedly. First of all, let's talk about where the terms and conditions appear on the YouTube page, which I would submit to you, is not fo…

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What's in the TikTok Terms of Service, with lawyer Joel MacMull 20:50

1+ y ago20:50

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When I first came up with the idea to do a show on Terms of Agreement, TikTok was the first that came to mind. I called Joel MacMull immediately. He just laughed and agreed it had the great makings for an expose as to what’s in the thing. Now, with all the noise and foot stomping in Congress, it seems a natural time to release this episode of “That…

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Investigating the AI and Chat Engine EULAs 24:37

1+ y ago24:37

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When Joel and I first started kicking around the idea of t doing a podcast on End-User License Agreements, it seemed like a no brainer. No one reads these things, and yet we all click the “Accept” button on a downloaded app. We decided we’d become the town-criers on this thing called a EULA, and start exposing what’s really in the terms and how enf…

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That's in my EULA?? - An Introduction 4:21

1+ y ago4:21

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Transcript and resources for this episode available at WhatsInMyEULA.com When was the last time you read the terms of agreement before clicking the “Accept” button after downloading a new app? Before I started this podcast, if you’re like me, that would be “never”. I would venture to guess that no one, not even the most detail oriented, go-by-the-b…