Tired of liberals and conservatives screaming partisan talking points? We were, and so we created The Politics Guys as a sane and civil alternative. Each week, a liberal and a conservative talk *to*, not at each other, in an attempt to better understand the week in politics & policy. We're not about scoring cheap partisan points or preaching to the ideological choir. We reject the notion that people who see the world differently are either stupid or evil. Our mission is to promote a shared, ...
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Buffalo Shooting, Pennsylvania Primaries, Cawthorne's loss, FEC vs Cruz, Bezos vs President Biden, Abortion
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Trey & Ken open the show talking about the Buffalo shooting with a focus on the shooter’s, Payton Gendron, screed. They discuss why the screed is hard to find, its contents, and they tackle the problems of fascism in the United States. They also discuss the underlying racial shifts that fascism and racism has taken. Next they move to the razor thin…
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Life After Roe, Trump’s Primary Success, COVID, Ukraine/Russia, Inflation, Expat Mike?
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the post Roe landscape, given the near certainty of the Supreme Court finding that there is no constitutionally protected right to terminate a pregnancy. They look at some data on pregnancy and abortion, discuss the recent efforts of Democrats to codify Roe’s protections into law, how states are likely …
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Adam Probolsky on Polling and Partisan Identification
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Trey talks with Adam Probolsky, President of Probolsky Research, a full service opinion research firm specializing in market research and opinion research on elections and public policy, working on behalf of business, government, non-profit, special interest and media clients. Trey and Adam's conversation includes: A conversation on political and p…
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Abortion Leak, Intelligence Leak, Puerto Rico, JD Vance, Shurtleff
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Trey and Ken open the show with a two-pronged discussion of the leaked Alito opinion overturning Roe v Wade. First the pair discuss the opinion itself, the location of the right to privacy, and, ultimately, the legal obligations states can (or should) impose based on the question of what constitutes life. Second, the pair discuss the implications o…
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Paul Brandus on Presidential Communication in the Biden and Trump Administrations
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Trey talks with Paul Brandus, independent member of the White House press corps and founder of West Wing Reports (@WestWingReport), columnist, and author of books including Under This Roof and This Day in Presidential History. Trey and Paul's conversation includes: Paul's assessment of former President Donald Trump's communication strategy Paul's t…
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Disney & Florida GOP, Musk & Twitter, Russia & Ukraine, Title 42
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Mike, Jay, and Trey open the show with an extended discussion of Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law, Disney’s response to it, and Florida’s state government retaliation. They get into what the law actually says, whether Disney was violating unwritten rules of lobbying by coming out against the law after it had passed, if the state was right to retaliate…
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McCarthy’s Lie, Mask Mandate, DeSantis vs. Disney, Russia & Ukraine, Tax Day, 4/20
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy being caught in a lie about recommending that Trump resign, Trump’s reaction, and what this might tell us about Trump and Trumpism in the GOP of 2022. Next is a look at the ruling that ended the federal mask mandate. Mike and Jay get into administrative power, judici…
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Jennifer Sciubba on How Sex, Death, and Migration Shape Our World
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Northern Kentucky University political scientist Kimberly Weir talks with Jennifer Sciubba, political scientist at Rhodes College and author of the recently released 8 Billion and Counting: How Sex, Death, & Migration Shape our World. Topics Kimberly & Jennifer discuss include: Why people don’t think about demography when considering politics Globa…
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Brooklyn Shooting, New NATO Members, Oklahoma Abortion Ban, Tax Policy, Pakistani Espionage?
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Trey & Ken open the show with a discussion of Frank James arrest. Big topics include the nature of his arrest, discussion of crime trends in the U.S., the role of weapons in crime trends, and the political ramification of those trends. That's followed by Oklahoma's newly passed abortion ban. The ban, which has no exceptions, was followed by Kentuck…
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Larry Jacobs on Democracy Under Fire
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Trey talks with Larry Jacobs, founder and director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance (CSPG) and holder of the Walter F. and Joan Mondale Chair for Political Studies at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey School of Public Affairs on his latest book Democracy Under Fire: Donald Trump and the Breaking of American History. Topic…
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Jackson Confirmation, Russian War Crimes, Amazon Union, Title 42, GOP Insurrectionists
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the Supreme Court confirmation vote for Ketanji Brown Jackson. They focus on Mitt Romney’s flip from “no” vote on Jackson’s confirmation to the DC Circuit last summer to his “yes” vote on Supreme Court confirmation. Jay agrees with Romney’s assessment of Jackson and feels that the default should be to a…
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Chris Brady on the Politics and Promise of Cryptocurrency
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Mike talks with Chris Brady, a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, humorist, and businessman. His latest book is The Bitcoin Bride: A Rascal Money Story. Topics Mike & Chris discuss include: - what cryptocurrency is and how it works - Bitcoin as “freedom money” - the inevitability of traditional currency losing value - “Gold Bugs” and crypt…
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Prosecuting Trump, Russia, Anti-Lynching Law, Biden’s Budget, Responding to Anti-Trans Laws
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of multiple developments concerning the events of January 6th, including Ginni Thomas’s text messages and Justice Thomas’s refusal to recuse, White House communication records on that date, and whether Donald Trump should be investigated and potentially prosecuted for his role in the events of that day. Af…
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Ketanji Brown Jackson, Hunter Biden, Ukraine, Idaho Abortion, Indiana & Utah Anti-Trans Bills, Inflation
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Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | PocketCasts | Overcast | Stitcher | RSS Trey and Mike host this week's show and start with the confirmation hearings for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Topics include the importance of position taking over substantive conversations, the questions of sentencing in child pornography cases and judicial philosophy. Next the pair tak…
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Isaac Saul on Media Bias, Ideological Diversity, and How Tangle Can Help
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Mike & Trey talk with Isaac Saul, a political reporter who shares our belief that information bubbles are a big problem. Instead of just bemoaning this and encouraging people to try and somehow break out of their partisan bubbles, Isaac decided to do something about it – he founded Tangle. If you're a fan of The Politics Guys, you'll really appreci…
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Ukraine & Russia, Federal Reserve, COVID Surge, Sunshine Protection, Biden & the 9th
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Mike & Jay open the show with a look at the latest in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, now in its third week. They discuss whether the United States should be doing more to help Ukraine, some military realities, whether or not Putin is a war criminal, revoking Russia’s Most Favored Nation trade status, what to expect of China, and a lot more. Followin…
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Justin Gest on Majority Minority
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Trey talks with scholar Justin Gest (@_JustinGest), an associate professor from George Mason Universty's Schar School of Policy and Government, and author of the upcoming book Majority Minority. Things Trey & Gest get into include: The future of majority minority politics in the United States Understanding nationalism The intersection of ethnicity,…
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Russia, Biden on Crypto, Bipartisanship Breaks Out, LGBTQ+ Laws
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Mike & Jay open with a look at the flurry of activity surrounding Russia’s invasion of Ukraine - the death toll and human cost, Russia’s cratering economy, energy policy ramifications, and much more. They also take a look at President Biden’s new Executive Order on cryptocurrencies, which some believe Russia may be using to at least partially evade…
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Andrew Rice on The Year That Broke America
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Mike talks with Andrew Rice, a contributing editor at New York magazine, former staff writer at The Hill, and the author of the recently published book The Year That Broke America: An Immigration Crisis, a Terrorist Conspiracy, the Summer of Survivor, a Ridiculous Fake Billionaire, a Fight for Florida, and the 537 Votes That Changed Everything, whi…
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Russian Invasion, Trump Criminal Violations, Biden's State of the Union Address, White House COVID Strategy, Texas Primary, Egbert v Boule, U.S. v Abu Zubaydah
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This week Trey and Ken host the show and start by bringing updates on Russia and Ken's perspective to the ongoing crisis. Specifically the pair discuss the recent attack on a nuclear power plant and the Congressional resolution condemning Russia. Next the pair talk about client, attorney privilege as it may or may not apply to John Eastman, which a…
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Russian Invades Ukraine, Biden’s Nominates Ketanji Brown Jackson, 1st Amendment vs LGBTQ+ Anti-Discrimination
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Mike & Jay are joined by Trey on this episode of the podcast, which starts off with an extended discussion of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The guys get into likely outcomes, Putin’s strategic savvy, the ineffectiveness of sanctions, democratic vs authoritarian regimes, prospects for energy policy in Europe, the GOP split in reactions to Putin and …
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Economist Bryan Caplan: Labor Econ vs The World
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Mike talks with Bryan Caplan, Professor of Economics at George Mason University and a prolific and always interesting blogger for Econlog. He's the author of multiple books, three of which Bryan and Mike have discussed on previous episodes: The Myth of the Rational Voter (interview), The Case Against Education (interview), and Open Borders (intervi…
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Russia, DOJ Sues MO, TX Sues CDC, Durham Probe, Kids Online Safety, Politics & Culture
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Mike & Jay kick off the show with a look at what seems to be the “it’s only a matter of time” Russian invasion of Ukraine. Jay thinks that the Biden administration’s approach has been very good to this point, while Mike attempts to present the non-interventionist, “America First” case for staying out of Russia’s (and possibly China’s) spheres of in…
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Alabama & the Voting Rights Act, National Archives vs Trump, Ending Congressional Stock Trading, the Open App markets Act, Trucker Protests, Republican Party Identification Shifts
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In this episode Emily Smith of Oklahoma Christian University joins Ken & Trey. The trio begin by looking at the Supreme Court's recent decision to allow Alabama redistricting maps to remain, despite a potential conflict with the Voting Rights Act. Following this the trio talk Trump and his 15 boxes of documents retrieved by the National Archives an…
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Russia & Ukraine, Trump & The GOP, Ginni Thomas & Judicial Recusal, Brian Flores Sues NFL, Joe Rogan
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Mike & Jay start off this week’s episode with a look at the latest developments in the no longer “immanent” Russian invasion of Ukraine (at least not according to the White House). That’s followed by discussion of Donald Trump’s comments on the Electoral Count Act, pardons for those involved in the January 6th Capitol rioting, and the Republican Na…
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Economist Glenn Hubbard: The Wall And The Bridge
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Mike talks with Glenn Hubbard, the Russell L. Carson Professor of Finance and Economics at the Columbia Business School. Professor Hubbard is the author of a number of highly regarded economics texts and he's also served as the chairman of the US Council of Economic Advisers from 2001 through 2003. His latest book, and the topic of this conversatio…
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Breyer Retires, Affirmative Action, Oil Leases, Inflation & The Economy, TR Statue Removed
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This week it’s a special three-person episode: Mike, Jay, and Ken. They kick things off by discussing the retirement of Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, including his role on the Court, potential replacements, and the upcoming confirmation battle. They stick with the Supreme Court in their discussion of two big affirmative action cases the Cou…
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The Filibuster, Executive Privilege, New York Attorney General, Gerrymandering 2022, Biden's Polling
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This week Trey and Ken host the show. The first story is discussing the filibuster and the Democrats inability to change it for voting rights. Trey gives a brief history of the filibuster. Ken argues it has been weaponized since the 1990s. Trey suggests weaponization depends on the policy outcome desired. Next, they turn to the Supreme Court's ruli…
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Vaccine Mandates, Voting Legislation, Russia Pipeline Sanctions, Presidential Debates, Dr. Fauci vs. Dr. Paul, Jan 6ers Running for Office
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This week Mike, Jay and Trey all host the show. Mike pays tribute to his late mother and this episode is dedicated to her memory. The first story is vaccine mandates. The trio parse out the questions of legality from policy. All three hosts are in large agreement on legality, but there are some differences in the best policy moving forward. Next, t…
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1/6 Reflections, Electoral Count Act, The Fed & Inflation, State of the Judiciary, MTG Twitter Ban
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Mike & Jay start the first Politics Guys show of 2022 by looking back at the events of January 6th, 2021. They discuss how they viewed the Capitol riot then, how they see it now, the value of the House January 6th Commission, and how much of a hold Donald Trump and “The Big Lie” has on the Republican Party. January 6th happened in large part becaus…
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Looking Back at 2021, Predicting Forward to 2022
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In this final episode of 2021 Trey and Ken look back to the biggest moments of 2021 in order to make some predictions about the big issues of 2022. They cover the party system, the durability of democracy, economic policy with a focus on inflation and spending, midterm predictions, the pandemic, and a bit of thought on the 2024 presidential electio…
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Meadows Contempt, Jan 6 Revelations, Texas Lawsuit, Newsom, Russian Threats, Omicron
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This week Trey is joined by Ken and they start the show discussing Mark Meadows and the House's criminal contempt vote. The conversation focuses on the legal nature of executive privilege, the nature of 5th Amendment protections against self-incrimination, and the likelihood of the proceedings simply making it to the next election. After that the p…
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Texas Abortion Law, Debt Ceiling, Ukraine, Olympic Boycott, Racial Gerrymandering, The Future
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After a tribute (of sorts) to Bob Dole, Mike comes in hot on the Supreme Court’s decision on the Texas abortion case. That surprises Jay, who feels it’s a victory (of sorts) for abortion providers in Texas. Mike agrees with Chief Justice Roberts who, in his partial dissent, argues that “it is the role of the Supreme Court in our constitutional syst…
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Shutdown Averted, The Supreme Court & Abortion, Amazon & Unions, Mike’s Privilege
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the deal to keep the federal government funded through mid February, which turns into a much more philosophical argument between Jay’s Machiavellian pragmatism / realism and Mike’s liberal idealism. Next is a discussion of oral arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which involves Mi…
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Omicron Variant, Oil Reserve Release, Arbery Verdict, Biden’s Fed Nominations, Tucker Carlson’s “Patriot Purge”
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Mike and Jay start off this week’s show with late-breaking news about the emergence of the Omicron COVID variant. Jay brings up the inherent non-political nature of viruses, whereas Mike argues that responses to viruses are inherently political, and that the US and other wealthy countries can and should be doing more. Next, they discuss President B…
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Rittenhouse, Bannon, Representative Paul Gosar
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Trey and Ken get deep into the details this week starting with the Kyle Rittenhouse case. Did the jury get the correct verdict? What are the implications for self-defense in states with both open carry and stand your ground laws? Next they turn to another case: the indictment of Steve Bannon. They talk next steps and the history of executive privil…
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Federal Courts Block OSHA Vaccine Mandate and Trump Document Release, Worsening Inflation & Build Back Better
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Mike & Jay open the show with a look at a 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that halts implementation of the Occupational Health and Safety and Health Administration’s rule requiring vaccinations at businesses with 100 or more employees. Both Mike and Jay agree with the ruling, which makes it clear that the OSHA rule would be highly unlikely to s…
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Infrastructure Passes With Build Back Better Delayed, Republican Electoral Gains
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Mike & Jay start off the show by discussing the flurry of last-minute activity that led to the eventual passage of the infrastructure bill, with House progressives (at least enough of them) agreeing to support it in exchange for a commitment from Democratic moderates that they’d support Build Back Better as long as the CBO cost analysis - due in th…
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Trump's Opinion, DOJ Memo, Virginia Gubernatorial Race
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This week Trey and Ken tackle the Wall Street Journal's opinion piece by Trump. Trey grapples with the rule by which to hold opinions in a liberal society while Ken thinks the WSJ should have contextualized the Trump piece. Next the pair discuss the DOJ Memo on potential violence at school board meetings and the subsequent grilling of Garland in Co…
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Supreme Court Stay, Supreme Court Commission, Biden on Taiwan, Manchin's (Lack of) Spending
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This week the Republican (Jay) and the RINO (Trey) take over the show. The pair start discussing the Supreme Court's refusal to uphold the lower court stay on the Texas abortion ban. Next they discuss the political and ideology of the Supreme Court and the recently released draft findings of the Biden Supreme Court Commission. Next, they move to fo…
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Eric Posner on How Antitrust Failed Workers
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Mike talks with Eric Posner, the Kirkland and Ellis Distinguished Service Professor of Law at the University of Chicago, about his latest book, How Antitrust Failed Workers. In this discussion, they cover: monopolies and monopsonies labor market concentration why there are so few labor-focused antitrust actions important differences between labor m…
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Texas Abortion Law, Jobs & Inflation, The Nobel Price & Minimum Wage Increases
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Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the 5th Circuit overturning a federal district court judge and allowing Texas’ abortion law to remain in effect. Neither Mike nor Jay believe the law is constitutional according to current precedents, but Texas’ clever crafting of the law has made it more difficult for federal courts to enjoin it. Jay w…
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Debt Agreement, Facebook Whistleblower, Abortion Injunction
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Trey & Mike open the show with the recently passed debt resolution keeping the government open until December 3. The two pick up where Mike & Jay left off last week on the topic of the debt ceiling and its historic origin. Further the two discuss predictions for what December may hold. Next, they discuss the interconnected issues of Whistleblower F…
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Government Funding & Debt Ceiling, Biden’s Big Bills, Presidential Approval
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Mike & Jay open the show with a look at the last minute continuing resolution that keeps the government going until early December, as well as prospects for a default when the debt ceiling is reached on or around October 18. Mike agrees with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen that the debt ceiling should be eliminated (or at least set at one quattuord…
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Values, Cancel Culture, and The Politics Guys; COVID Vaccines; Immigration
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Today, on a very special Politics Guys, Mike and Jay talk cancel culture, shared values, and why they started the show. Listen with the whole family. Then its the COVID update, and when is it OK for a political appointee to challenge "The Science"? And the immigration mess — the Senate Parliamentarian reaches the conclusion that overhauling immigra…
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COVID, AUKUS, Freedom to Vote, Peril
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On this week's show Trey is joined by Ken. The duo discuss COVID vaccine efficacy in light of last weeks show's disagreement between Kristin and Trey. The pair also talk AUKUS, the technology sharing agreement between the U.S., the U.K. and Australia. Finally, the two discuss the upcoming moderate Freedom to Vote Act and the excerpts from the upcom…
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Biden Vaccine Mandates, DOJ Sues Texas over Abortion Law, 9/11 - 20 Years Later
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On this week’s show, Mike and Kristin are joined by Trey. They discuss the Biden Administration’s sweeping vaccine mandates as well as the DOJ suing Texas over its most recent abortion ban. Finally, the three hosts look back on 9/11 and 20 years of policy since - as well as the future of Afghanistan and the ramifications of Taliban leadership there…
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Abortion Ruling, Texas Voting Law, Afghanistan
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This week, Mike & Jay start off by discussing the Supreme Court’s refusal to halt Texas’ new abortion law, the strictest in the nation. They both agree that the law has serious constitutional problems, but Jay believes the majority got the ruling right, and that the correct course is to let things play out in the lower courts. Mike sees this as the…
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Afghanistan, Vaccine Mandates, The House Narcissist Caucus, Eviction Moratorium
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Mike and Ken open the show with a discussion of the situation in Afghanistan. Ken believes the withdrawal has gone very well all things considered, but is at least open to the argument that withdrawing might not have been the right call. Mike is similarly conflicted about withdrawing, but feels that the Biden administration has botched the withdraw…
Its been a tough week. Mike and Jay discuss the Afghanistan debacle and how we get our people, and the people who risked their lives to help us, to safety. Then it's the state of COVID--booster shots, breakthroughs, and Biden. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in sup…