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devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development

Andrew Lisowski, Justin Bennett

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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible. We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, A ...
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Mike Judge breaks down why he doesn’t believe the AI coding claims add up, the folks behind Cactoide create an open source alternative to Meetup / Eventbrite, Ryan Farley tells the story of how RSS beat Microsoft, Dominik Szymański ditched Docker for Podman (and thinks you should too), and Stripe announces a new layer 1 blockchain called Tempo. Vie…
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This week we talk to Oleg Isonen and Bogdan Chadkin, the people behind Webstudio. Webstudio is an open source visual builder for the web, aiming to right the wrongs of the current visual builder landscape for a more collaborative and accessible experience. https://webstudio.is/ https://github.com/kof https://bento.me/oleg008 https://x.com/oleg008 h…
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This week we talk to Francois Best, the creator of Nuqs, a library for managing URL state in React. We talk about the origins of Nuqs, the challenges of managing URL state, and the future of the library. https://francoisbest.com/ https://bsky.app/profile/francoisbest.com
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Jim Remsik has lived on the bleeding edge (but also the heart’s center) of the Ruby world for decades. This fall, he’s organizing six (yes, SIX) XO Ruby confs all around the United States. On this episode, Jim joins us to reminisce about the early days of Ruby and Rails, share what he’s learned from so many years of organizing events, and invite al…
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Dominik Meca is infuriated by Next.js, Josh Bressers explains why open source is just one person, Huon Wilson describes the usefulness of “Copy as cURL”, Herman Martinus re-licenses Bear, and Nawaz Dhandala unpacks why dependency bloat is such a pervasive problem. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support our work, get clo…
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Arun Gupta, now a “free agent” after his surprise exit from Intel, joins us to discuss how he’s dealing with his first job hunt since the 1990s. Along the way, we talk about agentic coding strategies, what GPT-5’s release implies about the future, and more. (US buys 10% of Intel)++ Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 12 minutes at t…
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Our friends at Cult.Repo launched their epic Python documentary on August 28th, 2025! To celebrate, we sat down with Travis Oliphant –creator of NumPy, SciPy, and more– to get his perspective on how Python took over the software world. Stick around for the twist ending! We set aside Python and dissect Travis’ big idea to make open source projects f…
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Elon Musk and xAI take on Microsoft, DHH ships version 2 of Omarchy (his love letter to Linux), Glyn Normington on managing developer’s block, Mitchell Hashimoto declares that all Ghostty contributions must disclose AI tooling, the United States government takes a 10% stake in Intel, and Adam Derewecki thinks we should do things that don’t scale, t…
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This week we have Adam Argyle on the show. Adam is a designer and developer who is known for his work on VisBug and other design tools. He's also a member of the CSS Working Group and has worked on the dev tools for Chrome. If you haven't seen Adam's work that utilizes all the latest and greatest CSS features, you're missing out. Come listen to our…
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Our Changelog & Friends proof-of-concept with Mat Ryer has been remastered! Now with full-length video on YouTube. Originally recorded: 2023-02-08 Mat joins us for some good conversation about some Git tooling that’s been on our radar. We speculate, we discuss, we laugh, and Mat even breaks into song a few times. It’s good fun. Join the discussion …
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The epic show with Adam Jacob has been remastered! Now with full-length video on YouTube. Adam goes solo with Adam Jacob for an epic pod into his journey to get to System Initiative. From SysAdmin at 8 years old, to discovering Linux and working for Mom-and-pop ISPs, to open source changing his life and starting Opscode and building Chef. Buckle up…
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Cursor has a big problem, Alireza Bashiri thinks plaintext beats todo apps, Manish built an offline AI workspace, OverType is a WYSIWYG markdown editor that’s just a textarea, and sshrc lets you bring your config with you to remote machines. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and m…
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Bryan Cantrill returns in the wake of Oxide Computer Company’s $100M Series B. Bryan tells us how he’s avoiding an appearance on Silicon Valley (ding), why their uniform compensation is working, where Oxide fits in the AI datacenter, what scaling to 50+ rack orders looks like, and more. (GitHub has no CEO and saving Intel)++ Join the discussion Cha…
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Dr. Ewelina Kurtys is leading the way in biocomputing at FinalSpark where she is working on the next evolutionary leap for AI and neuron-powered computing. It’s a brave new world, just 10 years in the making. We discuss lab-grown human brain organoids connected to electrodes, the possibility to solve AI’s massive energy consumption challenge, post-…
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Open source maintainers share their regrets, Thomas Dohmke steps down as GitHub CEO, James Kettle breaks down HTTP/2 from a security perspective, PHP is getting the pipe operator this November, and a class action copyright suit threatens Anthropic and the rest of the AI industry. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 1 mi…
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This week we talk to Bereket Engida (Beka) the creator of better-auth. Better-auth is an extensible, open source authentication library that's taking the JavaScript community by storm.- https://www.beka.et/- https://better-auth.comBecome a paid subscriber our patreon, spotify, or apple podcasts to help support the podcast. https://www.patreon.com/d…
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Gerhard calls Kaizen 20, ‘The One Where We Meet’. Rightfully so. It’s also the one where we eat, hike, chat, and launch Pipely live on stage with friends. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 7 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: Auth0 – The identity infrastructure for the age of AI. Built by d…
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We’re LIVE at the historic Oriental Theater in Denver, CO with Nora Jones. Nora is the founder of Jeli.io, recently acquired by PagerDuty and she’s been shaping the way we think about reliability, incident response, and human-centered engineering for years. We get into the real story behind the deal. Not just the headline, but what it’s like sellin…
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Alex Kondov knows when you’ve been vibe coding. (He can smell it.) our friends at Charm release a Go-based AI coding agent as a TUI, Jan Kammerath disassembled the “hacked’ Tea service’s Android app, Alex Ellman made a website that provides up-to-date pricing info for major LLM APIs, and Steph Ango suggests remote teams have “ramblings” channels. V…
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Adam & Jerod (plus zero other randos) dig into Stack Overflow’s 2025 developer survey results. We discuss SO’s decline, the desire for younger devs to have real chats with real people, the rise of uv and more Python winning, why people are frustrated with AI, and more. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 4 minutes on this episode because t…
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Greg Osuri, Founder and CEO of Akash Network joins us to share the backstory in his testimony before congress on the energy crisis and what it’s going to take to power the future of AI. From powering datacenters, to solar, decentralized AI compute, to zombies in SF. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 2 minutes at the end of this ep…
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Jono Alderson takes aim at SPAs thanks to modern CSS, copyparty turns almost any device into a file server, Ernie Smith honors the Game Genie’s 35th anniversary, Anthropic shares how their teams use Claude Code, and Drew Lyton tells why he believes the future is NOT self-hosted. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support ou…
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This week we're joined by Maxwell Brown, a co-founder of Effectful Technologies, the company behind Effect.ts, a library for building robust, production-grade applications with TypeScript. Effect.ts is a library that bends Typescript in many ways, like putting Errors and Dependencies into the type system. Join as as we see what they've been up to a…
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Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. This time we’re joined by three Changelog++ members, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick everyone else into thinking that they do. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 14 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join…
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Sugu Sougoumarane, creator of Vitess, comes off sabbatical to bring Vitess to Postgres. We discuss what motivated Sugu to come off sabbatical, why now is the time, the technical challenges of doing so, the implementation details of Multigres (Vitess for Postgres). We also discuss the state of Postgres at scale. Join the discussion Changelog++ membe…
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Przemysław Dębiak beat an advanced AI model from OpenAI in a 10-hour head-to-head coding marathon, Linux breaks 5% desktop share in U.S., Stefano Marinelli is writing a series on making your own backup system, César Soto Valero switched to Python (and is liking it), and Charlie Graham thinks it’s rude to show AI output to people. View the newslette…
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Nick Nisi joins us to discuss all the Windsurf drama, his new agentic lifestyle, whether or not he’s actually more productive, the new paper that says he maybe isn’t more productive, the reckoning he sees coming, and why we might be the last generation of code monkeys. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 13 minutes at the end of thi…
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David Hsu from Retool joins Adam to discuss how he built Retool. From the pivot in YC, to building the most widely used internal tools platform, to now being the platform for AI agents in the enterprise—on this episode we cover David journey from YC to building agents for the enterprise. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 5 minutes on thi…
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Researchers in Japan achieve a world record in data transmission speeds, Robin Sloan explains how an app can be a home-cooked meal, Windsurf founders Varun Mohan & Douglas Chen are headed to Google, new Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan says it’s too late for the incumbent, Anton Zaides says stop forcing AI tools on your engineers, and Adrien Friggeri visualize…
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Abi Noda from DX is back to share some cold, hard data on just how productive AI coding tools are actually making developers. Teaser: the productivity increase isn’t as high as we expected. We also discuss Jevons paradox, AI agents as extensions of humans, which tools are winning in the enterprise, how development budgets are changing, and more. Jo…
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We talk with Don MacKinnon, Co-founder and CTO of Searchcraft—a lightspeed search engine built in Rust. We dig into the future of search, how it blends vector embeddings with classic ranking, and what it takes to build developer-friendly, production-grade search from the ground up. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this epis…
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Justin Searls describes the “full-breadth developer” and why they’ll win because AI, Cloudflare comes up with a way publishers can charge crawlers for access, Hugo Bowne-Anderson explains why building AI agents fails so often, the Job Worth Calculator tells you if your job is worth the grind, and Sam Lambert announces PlanetScale for Postgres. View…
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This week we're joined by Brendan O'Brien (b5), founder and CEO of n0, the company behind Iroh - a peer-to-peer networking library that prioritizes reliability and "just works." Iroh enables developers to establish direct, authenticated connections between any two devices using only their public keys, achieving near 100% connection success rates. W…
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Jeff Cayley joins Adam to talk about selling mountain bikes all over the planet and making some of the best outdoor and mountain bike gear, parts, and accessories you can buy. They have a killer YouTube channel as well. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 62 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors:…
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Thorsten Ball returned to Sourcegraph to work on Amp because he believes being able to talk to an alien intelligence that edits your code changes everything. On this episode, Thorsten joins us to discuss exactly how coding agents work, recent advancements in AI tooling, Amp’s uniqueness in a sea of competitors, the divide between believers and skep…
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David Singleton says coding agents have crossed a chasm, Anton Zaides explains how SWEs should approach the “squeeze”, Mat Duggan has ideas for Kubernetes 2.0, Sean Goedecke does a nice job elucidating the coding agent commoditization, and one more good reason to write, even though it’s hard. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ memb…
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Our old friend Chris McCord, creator of Elixir’s Phoenix framework, tells us all about his new remote AI runtime for building Phoenix apps. Along the way, we vibe code one of my silly app ideas, calculate all the money we’re going to spend on these tools, and get existential about what it all means. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 4 mi…
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Chris Anderson joins the show. You may recognize Chris from the early days of CouchDB and Couchbase. Back when the world was just waking up to NoSQL, Chris was at the center of it all, shaping how developers think about data distribution and offline-first architecture. These days, Chris is working on Vibes.diy and Fireproof — tools that make one-sh…
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This week we talk to Maxim Fateev, a co-founder of Temporal. Temporal started as a tool for Uber but quickly grew into a tool that makes distributed code exectution a breeze. Come hear what one of the poineers of Durable Exectution has to say! https://temporal.io Episode sponsored By WorkOS (https://workos.com) Become a paid subscriber our patreon,…
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Jerod tells Adam about how bad he hates the taste of Gin, sips on some Generative A Rye (on the rocks), they open the comments section for a bit, and then land the plane talking about being alone, naked, and afraid. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: Reto…
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Jerod is joined by Carson Gross, the creator of htmx –a small, zero-dependency JavaScript library that he says, “completes HTML as a hypertext”. Carson built it because he’s big on hypermedia, he even wrote a book called Hypermedia Systems. Carson has a lot of strong opinions weakly held that we dive into in this conversation. Join the discussion C…
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Lukas Mathis tells us to stop uploading our data to Google, Robert Vitonsky wants web devs to not guess his language using his IP, Tom from GameTorch reminds us that software talent is gold right now, Austin Parker from Honeycomb describes how LLMs are upending the observability industry, and Vitess co-creator, Sugu Sougoumarane, joins Supabase to …
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This week we talk to Dylan Piercey, a core team member of Ebay's Marko team. Marko heralded many next gen frontend framework features that litter the landscape today, including streaming, islands architecture, and more. Marko v6 is a major release that brings many new features to the table, including a new language features, and a new compiler. htt…
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