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devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development

Andrew Lisowski, Justin Bennett

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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible. We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, A ...
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John Nunemaker joins us to share his new thesis for acquiring Rails based SaaS apps. He’s early days on his next big thing called Very Good Software and recently acquired Fireside, a podcast hosting service started by Dan Benjamin. This comes after many years since John’s acquisition of a lifetime of Speakerdeck to GitHub, which laid the foundation…
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This week we have Nathan Manceaux-Panot, the creator of Retcon, a git client. Retcon is a git client that helps you rewrite git history with remarkable ease. You can drag and drop commits to create new commits, undo, redo, and more. https://cykele.ro/ https://mas.to/@Cykelero https://github.com/Cykelero https://indieapps.space/@Retcon https://retco…
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Abi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Overflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they’re doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer’s happiness and productivity. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at…
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Jerod is joined by the co-hosts of core.py , Pablo Galindo & Łukasz Langa, a podcast about Python internals by people who work on Python internals. Python 3.13 is right around the corner, which means the Global Interpeter Lock (GIL) is now experimentally optional! This is a huge deal as Python is finally free-threaded. There’s more to discuss, of c…
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OpenFreeMap puts OpenStreetMap data on your website for free, Fatih Arslan builds a Dieter Rams inspired iPhone dock, Joseph Gentle thinks the Rust programming language feels like a first-gen product & the web dev community is debating the viability of Web Components once again. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 2 min…
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Nick Nisi joins Adam and Jerod to talk about Karaoke, ARC and the business model of web browsers, this WordPress drama, and an epic bonus for Changelog ++ subscribers. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 61 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Assembly AI – Turn voice data into summaries with Assemb…
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Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what’s new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, th…
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Mahmoud Mousa releases Sidekick, a tool for hosting side projects on a cheap VPS, Ryan Dahl, has had enough of Oracle bogarting “JavaScript” but not even using it, Thomas Rampelberg’s kty is a sweet terminal for Kubernetes, Redis users are considering alternatives after their relicense & a bunch of smart JS folks wrote up nine Node.js pillars. View…
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Join us as we talk to Guido Rosso, a co-founder of Rive a new graphics format made for interactive mediums. Guido has a storied career in animation and is building the next generation of graphics formats for the web with his twin brother, Luigi. Rive is the culmination of that experience that lets you create interactive graphics in a way that is fa…
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Gerhard Lazu joins us for Kaizen 16! Our Pipe Dream™️ is becoming a reality, our custom feeds are shipping, our deploys are rolling out faster & our tooling is getting just right. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 10 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Assembly AI – Turn voice data into summaries…
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Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let’s just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There’s even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures whil…
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Scott Chacon writes up his insider take on GitHub’s success, Sentry wants other companies to take the Open Source Pledge, Benj Edwards used AI to reproduce his late father’s handwriting, Dave Kiss explains the current hype that PHP is getting & Taylor Otwell raises $57 million series A from Accel. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++…
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This week we have David Mytton, a co-founder of console.dev, and a co-founder of ArcJet. At console.dev, David is always looking for ways to improve the developer experience. With ArcJet, David is try to make it easier for developers to build secure applications. https://davidmytton.blog/ Co-founder of https://console.dev/ https://x.com/davidmytton…
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Jerod & Adam share our Zulip first impressions, react to Elasticsearch going open source (again), discuss Christian Hollinger’s blog post on why he still self-hosts & answer a listener question: how do we produce podcasts? Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 22 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: S…
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Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup…
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A Rust for Linux developer resigns amidst rising tension in the Linux community, Bret Victor shows off what he’s been working on for years, Rachel (by the bay) laments how useless “SRE” has become as a role, Doug Turnbull makes the case for hiring junior devs & Baldur Bjarnason says the LLM honeymoon phase is about to end. View the newsletter Join …
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This week we have Predrag Gruevski to discuss TrustFall, a new query-based tool for querying anything. Trustfall makes it simple to turn anything into queryable data. Predrag used that to create cargo-semver-checks, a tool that checks your Rust packages for semantic versioning compliance. https://x.com/PredragGruevski https://predr.ag/ https://gith…
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Emily Freeman joins the show alongside our Ship It co-host, Justin Garrison! We hear Emily’s burnout story & learn how she and Forrest Brazeal are putting tech-focused influencers on tap. But first: area code turf wars, bad movie reboots & buying used DVDs… at Starbucks?! Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 12 minutes on this episode becau…
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We’re joined by Alya Abbott from Zulip, the open source, organized, threaded, team chat for distributed teams of all sizes. We talk about Zulip’s origins, how it’s open source, the way it’s led, no VC funding, what makes it different/better, how you can self-host it or use their cloud, moving to Zulip, contributing and being a part of the community…
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The Cursor AI code editor raises $60 million, RedMonk’s Rachel Stephens tries to determine if rug pulls are worth it, Caleb Porzio details how he made $1 million on GitHub Sponsors, Elastic founder Shay Banon announces that Elasticsearch is open source (again) & Tomas Stropus writes about the art of finishing. View the newsletter Join the discussio…
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This week we talk to Travis Arnold, a developer who is working on a new tool to make managing typescript documentation easier. Omnidoc is a tool that allows you to build a fully customized documentation solution, and the examples are event type checked. We also talk about his other projects, Restyle, JSX UI, and the future of React. https://x.com/s…
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What happens when you take two #define champs (Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert), a grizzled veteran (Adam Stacoviak), a british bard (Mat Ryer), a PhD (Carol Lee) & you pit them against each other in a game of fake tech definitions?! There’s only one way to find out… Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 27 minutes at the end of this epi…
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Ryan Worl, Co-founder and CTO at WarpStream, joins us to talk about the world of Kafka and data streaming and how WarpStream redesigned the idea of Kafka to run in modern cloud environments directly on top of object storage. Last year they posted a blog titled, “Kafka is dead, long live Kafka” that hit the top of Hacker News to put WarpStream on th…
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Waymo cars make bad neighbors, Leonardo Creed pulls together wisdom from Linus Torvalds & the Art of Unix Programming to conclude what good programmers worry about, Max Schmitt makes the argument that toast notifications create a bad user experience, ChartDB is a web-based database diagramming editor, Simon Tatham makes a list of code review anti-p…
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This week we're joined by Jordan Harband, a pillar of the npm ecosystem. Jordan maintains a staggering amount of open source projects that are used by millions of developers. Jordan has some opinions that go against the mainstream when it comes to legacy support. Join us as we try to understand his perspective. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljharb/ h…
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Adam & Jerod catch up with our ol’ friend, Suz Hinton! It’s been a couple years since Suz was a regular on JS Party. Since then, she moved back to Australia, earned a degree in cyber security & won a fidget spinner from the NSA… but that’s not all! Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads dis…
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Flavors of Ship It on The Changelog — if you’re not subscribed to Ship It yet, do so at shipit.show or by searching for “Ship it” wherever you listen to podcasts. Every week Justin Garrison and Autumn Nash explore everything that happens after git push — and today’s flavors include running infrastructure in space, managing millions of machines at M…
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Chris Stjernlöf got nerd-sniped and ended up writing down his practices of reliable software design, Ben Visness has had enough with the npm community’s propensity to pull in micro-libraries to suit every need, “Stay SaaSy” makes three metaphors for problem solving categories, Troy Hunt takes us inside the “3 billion people” National Public Data br…
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On this week's episode, we're excited to have Brandon Roberts on the show. Brandon is a software engineer at Open Sauced, a company that helps other companies build better open source software. He's also a creator of Analog, an full stack framework for building Angular apps. https://brandonroberts.dev/ https://github.com/brandonroberts https://www.…
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You won’t believe the bizarre secrets Jordan Eldredge found investigating corrupt Winamp skins (#7 will shock you)! You also won’t believe how long we can wax nostalgic about the era of Napster, Aladdin & Pearl Jam. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Paragon –…
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Andreas Kling and Chris Wanstrath have joined forces to form a non-profit called Ladybird Browser Initiative to manage the newly forked Ladybird browser. We discuss what it’s going to take to get to alpha, the why behind Ladybird, avoiding incentives other than those of the users, their plans for incremental adoption of Swift as the successor langu…
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Jimmy Miller tells us about the best, worst codebase he’s ever seen, The Phylum Research Team follows up on the great npm garbage patch, Zach Leatherman logs his findings on sneaky serverless costs, David Cain wants you to go on quests instead of goals & Ashley Janssen gives us szeven rules for effective meeting culture. View the newsletter Join th…
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This week we're joined by Richard Feldman, the author of Roc lang, a futuristic functional programming language. Richard is a software engineer at Zed, a company that making a new code editor that's built on the Rust programming language and integrates AI. We talk about all the crazy feature that Roc lang has, and how it might change the way you wr…
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Database aficionado, Ben Johnson, joins Jerod to answer the age ol’ question: which database should you use? Answering that isn’t always easy, which means it’s time to play the “It Depends” jingle & weigh (some of) the options. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sp…
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Dennis E. Taylor joins the show to take us “Into the Bobiverse” and other books he’s written. Dennis shares the backstory on how he went from programmer to author/writer and creator of Audible’s Best Science Fiction Book of 2016, his process for iterating and developing the story as he writes, plans for a Bobiverse movie, and what’s next in book 5 …
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The latest Stack Overflow Developer Survey has some concerning results, Joeri Sebrechts helps you do plain vanilla web dev, MIT’s “missing semester” course looks pretty amazing, a dive into the fascinating history of CSV & a tool to get request analytics from the nginx access logs. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support…
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This week we're delighted to have Nicholas Zakas on the show to talk about ESLint. ESLint is a tool that helps you find and fix problems in your JavaScript code by writing plugins that check for patterns in your code's AST. We talk about the history of ESLint, the challenges of building a linter, and the future of of ESLint. https://x.com/slicknet …
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Adam Jacob goes solo with Adam for an epic pod into his journey to get to System Initiative. From SysAdmin at 8 years old, to discovering Linux and working for Mom-and-pop ISPs, to open source changing his life and starting Opscode and building Chef. Buckle up. This is a different flavor of “Friends” for you. Enjoy. Join the discussion Changelog++ …
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Joseph Jacks (JJ) is back! We discuss the latest in COSS funding, his thesis for investing in commercial open source companies, the various rug pulls happening out there in open source licensing, and Zuck/Meta’s generosity releasing Llama 3.1 as “open source.” Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 13 minutes on this episode because they made…
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The Switzerland federal government requires releasing its software as open source, Google decides not to deprecate third-party cookies, Mark Zuckerberg says “open source” AI is the path forward, GitHub allows anyone access to deleted / private repository data & Tailscale wants to build a New Internet. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changel…
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This week we're joined by Nathan Walker and Eduardo Speroni, two members of the NativeScript team. NativeScript is a framework that enables you to use native platform APIs in JavaScript. We talk about the history of NativeScript, the current state of the project, and the future of cross-platform mobile development. https://nativescript.org/ https:/…
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Robert Ross joins us in CrowdStrike’s wake to dissect the largest outage in the history of information technology… and what it means for the future of the (software) world. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 9 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Cronitor – Cronitor helps you understand your cron j…
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Adam Lisagor (Sandwich Video founder) takes us behind the Sandwich to share his insights into the importance of storytelling in the tech industry, the value of helping Founders communicate their stories effectively, the details behind his new AI company, and the apps he’s making for Apple Vision Pro at Sandwich Vision. Join the discussion Changelog…
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Brendan Gregg details how eBPF can help us have no more blue Fridays, Misty De Meo thinks GitHub is starting to feel like legacy software, Gavin D. Howard does not want Rust to be used for everything, The Notion team published a deep dive into how they used the WASM version of SQLite to improve browser performance & Gregor Ojstersek writes up how t…
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Nick Janetakis is back and this time we’re talking about TUIs (text-based user interfaces) — some we’ve tried and some we plan to try. All are collected from Justin Garrison’s Awesome TUIs repo on GitHub. This episode is “AI free.” Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 17 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sp…
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Benn Stancil’s weekly Substack on data and technology provides a fascinating perspective on the modern data stack & the industry building it. On this episode, Benn joins Jerod to dissect a few of his essays, discuss opportunities he sees during this slowdown & explain why he thinks maybe we should disband the analytics team. Join the discussion Cha…
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Marcus J. Ranum’s 2005 post on dumb ideas in computer security still holds up, Barry Jones argues why story points are useless, Posting is an HTTP client as a TUI, Varnish ceator Poul-Henning Kamp (phk) reflects on ten years of working on the HTTP cache & es-tookit is a major upgrade to Lodash. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ me…
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This week we have Robby Russell, the creator of Oh My ZSH, and CEO of Planet Argon. We talk about the history of Oh My ZSH, the history of Planet Argon, and the future of terminal environments. https://ohmyz.sh/ https://github.com/robbyrussell https://x.com/robbyrussell https://robbyonrails.com/ https://www.planetargon.com/ Episode sponsored By Cle…
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Shawn “swyx” Wang is back to talk with us about the state of DevRel according to ZIRP (the Zero Interest Rate Phenomenon), the data that backs up the rise and fall of job openings, whether or not DevRel is dead or dying, speculation of the near-term arrival of AGI, AI Engineering as the last job standing, the innovation from Cognition with Devin as…
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