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Copper State of Mind is a public relations podcast for Arizona executives, business owners, and directors of marketing and communications who want to increase the effectiveness of their PR, media, and marketing campaigns. From messaging and media relations to content strategy and crisis management, the dollars your organization spends on integrated marketing communications are an investment that helps boost your brand, break through the noise, and drive business results. Join Abbie Fink, Pre ...
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This is the audio version of the Beyond Social Media Show, a weekly video podcast broadcast live on YouTube. Co-Hosts B.L. Ochman and David Erickson address all aspects of advertising, marketing, public relations and media in an irreverent, fast-paced style. The Beyond Social Media Show follows the following format: * Worst marketing stories of the week * Best marketing stories of the week * Shiny new tools * The Daily Numbers Each episode is 30-45 minutes long. Video of each episode is post ...
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Our First Drink: Conversations w/ Interesting Couples on Marriage, Relationships, Dating, Business & Social Media + Advice

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Hosted by Josh Haroldson and Stasia Haroldson, each weekly episode of the Our First Drink Podcast shares the story behind an interesting, creative, or entrepreneurial couple doing great things together in business, blogging, design, entrepreneurship, social media and more. Always starting with one simple question, “What was your first drink together?”, you’ll get a deep dive into where they were in their lives when their relationship started. Then, through the unique questions of the Our Fir ...
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Abbie Fink, the new sole owner of HMA Public Relations, shares her journey of transitioning from vice president to president and the challenges she faced during this significant change. Abbie and Adrian discuss the intricacies of business ownership, including the emotional and financial aspects of Abbie buying out her business partner, Scott Hanson…
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How do you communicate your best ideas and strategies to your audience? What are the possibilities and potential pitfalls of "thought leadership"? How do you know when you've accomplished the goals of your content strategy or marketing campaigns? In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about the 83 podcast episodes they've recorded…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk with Jackie Yoder, COO of Wilde Wealth Management. Jackie Yoder joined Wilde Wealth Management in March of 2020. As Chief Operating Officer, she leverages her excellent leadership and teamwork skills in order to ensure that objectives are completed to the highest standard. Jackie brings with …
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk with Melanie Green about law firm marketing and communications. Melanie Green loves working with lawyers and building teams to support them. She currently serves as the chief marketing and business development officer at Fish & Richardson, a premier intellectual property and litigation law fi…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk with Samantha Gulick, Director of Marketing for Harrah’s Ak-Chin Casino. Sam is a proud graduate of Bellevue University where she earned a degree in business. She started her career with Caesars Entertainment in June 2014 as the first Marketing Campaign Associate for Horseshoe Baltimore. She …
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When the whole world seems to be taking sides and voicing opinions on controversial issues, should your organization stay silent? Topics like abortion, gun legislation, or climate change may not be a "PR issue" for your company, but does that mean silence is an appropriate option? In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about when …
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Does your team trust you to follow through? A Harvard Business Review study found that 58% of employees would trust a stranger more than their boss. In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about the difference between accountability and authority and share some thoughts about the importance of trust in the workplace. If you enjoyed…
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During episode 379, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss teacher math influencers on TikTok and a knitting influencer, as well as: Search engine optimization for educational videos Slack's name pronounciation feature A clever QR code commercial Advertising guns Doorbell ads A Facebook phishing scandal Clumsy training videos Click-Through Rat…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre discuss the state of online reviews from the perspective of both customers and business owners – the value of feedback, the information we can glean from the reviews, and more importantly, what the business owner can and should do with that information. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode…
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Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre chat with Laurie Munn, Senior Director of Strategy and Business Development at Mercy Care, a not-for-profit health plan serving AHCCCS members throughout Arizona. Mercy Care provides access to health care services for families, children, seniors, and people with physical and developmental/cognitive disabilities. L…
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During episode 378, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Domino's Stranger Things pizza app, as well as: The brave new frontier of virtual product placements Coinbase gets all up in in haters' faces LEGO's crowdsourced Starry Night set A Taco Bell oil painting The problem of livestreamed mass murder The disasterously misnamed stablecoins Gru…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre discuss the benefits of the Public Relations Global Network, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this year. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "Collaboration, Best Practices Are Benefits of the PRGN Network" If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like the PRGN Presents podcast, h…
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During episode 377, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter and the composition of his tweets, as well as: How the tech titans are teaming up to forge a password-free future How video game engines are transforming Hollywood Twitter's testing of Circles LeBron James talks to his younger self Budweiser's politic…
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The "new normal" of remote and hybrid workplaces has created many challenges and opportunities. Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre discuss how these changes are affecting both internal and external communicators. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "Communications Remains Front and Center in the Workplace." If you enjoyed this episode, yo…
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During episode 376, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss the quick and nasty demise of CNN+, as well as: A PSA campaign featuring actual gunshot victims unboxing firearms Google Docs can write summaries and OpenAI can write much more impressive prose Stripe and Twitter partnering on crypto payouts YouTube's new keyword research tool Google's…
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What is integrity in public relations? What happens when your client has done wrong -- do you still work with them? What makes a good client, and what reasons are there NOT to take on a client? How do you navigate a crisis situation while maintaining your ethical standards? Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "Have We Ever Compromised Our…
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During episode 375, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Pink Floyd reuniting for Ukraine, as well as: YouTube experiments with reactions AdAge educates marketers on Web3 Podcasts on Twitter Twitter's edit button Fortune 1's NFTpocalypse Voice-activated graphic design AI salesforce The mother of all Facebook lawsuits Podcast consumption Plus…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk with Jon Goldberg, founder of Reputation Architects Inc., about the importance of content in establishing your reputation. Jon Goldberg is the founder and chief reputation architect of Reputation Architects Inc., a strategic communications and risk management advisory firm focused on building…
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During episode 374, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Burger King's poop emoji ice cream, as well as: Ukraine's NFT fundraiser The conversational receptiveness of Arnold Schwarzenegger's video address to the Russian people YouTube video essays Sting's new Hiring Chain music video for World Down Syndrome Day Google's sunsetting Universal A…
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Across the globe, distrust is on the rise. People's confidence in governments, the media, and NGOs is falling, while their trust in businesses continues to grow. In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre discuss the latest research on trust and what the public wants from executives and other business leaders. If you enjoyed this episode, …
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During episode 373, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Dolly Parton joining the metaverse, as well as: Tracking the emotional responses to commercials Twitter's new eCommerce shops How to claim credit for your work so your boss doesn't steal it The White House's influencer marketing efforts to combat Russia's anti-Ukraine propaganda Russia…
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When Instagram was purchased by Facebook for one billion dollars in 2012, the world's collective jaw dropped to the floor. Traditional business analysts couldn't imagine that a relatively young company with only 13 employees, who's sole product was a a picture sharing app, could be that valuable. Fast forward ten years and Instagram is, for many in…
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During episode 372, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss how some California researchers identified Russian invasion troop movements using Google Maps, as well as: The new Twitter Community features LinkedIn's new marketers' community group The growing base of Metaverse users; Applebee's annoyed at CNN for picture-in-picture ad placement wit…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about the evolution of Twitter as a platform for business communication and how brands can engage in 2022. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "Grow Your Brand on Twitter" If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like the PRGN Presents podcast, hosted by Abbie Fink, featuring con…
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During episode 371, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss YouTube's Super Bowl LXI Ad Blitz collection, as well as: Bay Area Rapid Transit's customer love story for Valentine's Day Apple's virtual reality operating system, realityOS The Go Viral video game that teaches you to recognize disinformation techniques Hawaiian Tropic’s crappy market…
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In this episode of Copper State of Mind, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about business communication on Facebook and whether the platform is still relevant in 2022. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "How to Grow Your Brand on Facebook" If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like the PRGN Presents podcast, hosted by Abbie F…
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During episode 370, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Neil Young and other musicians leaving Spotify in protest over Joe Rogan's Covid disinformation, as well as: The Bryant Lake Bowl's amazing marketing video Gibson's NFT guitars Michelob Ultra's Super Bowl commercial previews M&M's mascot makeovers Influencers need to get their act toge…
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LinkedIn continues to gain importance as the primary social network for business professionals. New features and content types are being added on a regular basis, and the overall "tone" of the platform has shifted toward a mix of personal and professional content. In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about the evolution of Linke…
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During episode 369, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss LinkedIn's new virtual events feature, as well as: A social justice t-shirt campaign The Gap's $500 NFT hoodie A superb real estate influencer example Apple AirTag's stalking abilities FTC Investigates Facebook Meta for anti-competitive behavior Google and Facebook under fire for cooki…
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As the digital landscape becomes even more entrenched in our daily lives, companies and brands, both large and small, must continue to adapt to the online behavior of their audiences, clients, and customers. In this episode, Abbie and Adrian talk about digital trends that are continuing into 2022. Read Abbie Fink's blog post for this episode: "Tren…
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One thing we know about the future is that it's unpredictable. But here we are with some predictions about issues that will continue to impact our lives and work in 2022, as well as the public relations and media-related implications of these trends. Read the full article for more insights from members of the Public Relations Global Network: https:…
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How does your organization define success? Better than average profits? Support of local nonprofits? Great customer feedback? The best way to achieve any of these or other ways you measure success is to ensure your employees are as committed to the success of your organization as you and the other leaders are. No one will be as strong of a brand ad…
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During episode 368, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss the top ten best marketing stories they covered in 2021 as well as the top ten worst marketing stories. Those stories included: Alien Oreos A handgun unboxing PSA 2020 hooks up with Satan in Match.com Commercials Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs Launch Weinermobile Lyft Rides New York Times' …
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During episode 367, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Prime Video's awesome anamorphic billboards for the Wheel Of Time premier, as well as: Twitter's new bot certification program The launch of The Atlantic's new newsletters Nicole Wallace conducts a master class on how to interview a politician with follow-up questions for Chris Christi…
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For many companies, Q4 means strategic planning and budgeting for the upcoming year. It's the perfect time to consider contracting with a public relations firm to develop and implement public relations and marketing programs for your organization. Whether big or small, for profit or not-for-profit, outside consulting services can be a valuable asse…
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During episode 366, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Iceland’s hilarious tourism video mocking Mark Zuckerberg’s launch of Meta, as well as: The Twitter Blue rollout TikTok’s Creative Exchange Is traditional SEO enough for voice? Email engagements that boost inbox visibility Content marketing tactics for recruiting talent Arby’s french f…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about visual storytelling with Paul M Bowers. They discuss the nature of the relationship between the creative and the agency, choosing a creative person who is invested in the success of the agency as well as their own gig, and building an ongoing understanding over time. They also talk abou…
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During episode 365, host B.L. Ochman interviews Drew Simon, founder of the Crypto Altruism community. They discuss the thousands of ways that cryptocurrency and the blockchain are being used for global social impact. Among the topics we cover in this interview: - Major charities including American Cancer Society, UNICEF, Save the Children and hundr…
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Given the rising popularity of podcasting, should your organization start a podcast? Is that even the right question? In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre help executives and their teams to think this through, because the right podcast strategy for YOU might not be the obvious one. (Most "how to start a podcast" advice is for indie c…
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During episode 364, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Google's push to court creators, as well as: LinkedIn closes the chapter on Stories Instagram allows desktop uploads Journalists prefer Zoom interviews Australia pitches Chris Helmsworth A sign language Metallica video Facebook by another name Apple's privacy protection posing Walmart'…
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During episode 363, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss Amazon's creepy home robot Astro, as well as: A study suggesting that jerks are jerks, online or off Sleep Number's content marketing campaign 5 new Twitter features, including business profiles A design firm's brilliant mock condom ads Amanda Gorman's Estee Lauder sponsorship gig Minn…
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In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk with Michelle Olson, APR, chair of the Public Relations Society of America, the nation's leading professional organization serving the communications community. With nearly 30,000 members, PRSA is the principal advocate for industry excellence and ethical conduct and provides members lifelong…
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During episode 362, host B.L. Ochman interviews Shelly Palmer, expert on cryptocurrency and the role it will play in marketing and commerce. Among the topics we cover in this interview: - Defining basic cryptocurrency terms - What is DeFi? - What’s a smart contract? - What is de-centralized banking? - How does blockchain work? - Is the IRS watching…
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The phrase "brand ambassador" has become something of a buzzword these days, and who better to represent your brand than the people who work for you? In theory, it's a great concept. But in practice, many business leaders struggle with finding high-quality employees and training them to be effective brand advocates. In this episode, Abbie Fink and …
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During episode 362, host David Erickson interviews Minnesota-based bassist, songwriter, prolific band member, and musical entrepreneur David LeDuc. Among the topics we cover in this interview: - David's musical career - The effect the pandemic had on musicians’ lives - David's efforts at marketing himself and his bands - How he crowdsourced his sol…
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After 18 months of the Covid-19 pandemic, an increasing number of people are attending in-person business events. From media events and brand activations to industry conferences and local networking opportunities, we're seeing a gradual return to the public sphere. But many questions remain. In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre share…
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What makes someone a good candidate for a job at a public relations firm or a role in communications or marketing at a business or non-profit? As the nature of work and careers continues to evolve, it turns out that the "obvious" answers to this question aren't always the best ones. In this episode, Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre talk about the…
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During episode 361, co-hosts BL Ochman & David Erickson discuss paid tickets for Twitter Spaces, as well as: Lyft and Oscar Meyer co-brand a Weinermobile lift The White House's pro-vax influencer campaign Google My Business' prominence signal Robot lawyers Walmart's advertising network Moms against misinformation Alan Page isn't notable enough for …
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During episode 360, host B.L. Ochman interviews Curtis Boyd, CEO of Objection.co. He explains how to fight fake online reviews. He also shares the amazing story that led him from nursing school to MIT and his online career. Among the topics we cover in this interview: - A challenge changes Curtis' life - The doctor who paid off Curtis' $32K student…
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It's important to keep your messaging and social media marketing consistent with your brand values and company goals. But how do you do this in a world where every employee, customer, client, and vendor is active on their own social media accounts? What social media policies should your organization have in place in 2021, when the lines between per…
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