Aaron and Nate of SlabStox eat, sleep, and breathe sports and sports trading cards. On the SX Podcast, this dynamic duo will help you navigate the world of sports card collecting, investing, and trading. Each week, you can expect new episodes to keep you up-to-date on the biggest trends and newest releases. Follow along as Aaron and Nate use their knowledge, experience, and storytelling skills to positively affect the lives of sports card collectors everywhere. Subscribe now to get in the game.
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Co-Hosted by Adam Amy and Russell Gibson we deliver a weekly podcast that discusses current NBA news and how this impacts the trading card market. Each week we deep dive into a larger more timeless hobby related topic.
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Welcome to the Harry Potter Trading Card Game Revival podcast! Join us as we discuss everything related to the Harry Potter Trading Card Game, including: deck techs, tournament discussions, ban list discussion, set discussion, design thoughts and processes, interviews, and more! Join members of the Revival design team as we talk about the HPTCG! Visit our community pages! HPTCG Revival Website: https://harrypottertcg.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/harrypottertcg Discord: https ...
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The Trading Card Preservation Society is Matt F. from Heartbreaking Cards of Staggering Genius and Dave the Cardboard Junkie. We talk about new releases, trading card news, along with pop culture news and notes. Colligere Omnia!
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Two Packs is the trading card comedy podcast! Join host Geoffrey Golden and a special guest as they crack open packs of bizarre, retro trading cards from The A-Team to Xena: Dangerous Liaisons. While they discover what’s inside, they discuss forgotten pop culture, geeky childhood memories, and a thoughtful exploration of the human condition through a post-post-modern lens. (Or, y'know, Garbage Pail Kids.)
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Ep 3: Post-Tournament Talk Nov. 2024
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We discuss the November HPTCGR tournament including the deck lists, cards, surprises, and thoughts on the meta. Congratulations to everyone who played in the tournament and to the winner! Visit our community pages! HPTCG Revival Website: https://harrypottertcg.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/harrypottertcg Discord: https://discord.com…
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Episode 173: Live from The Hobby Hangout in Melbourne: Matthew Pain, Double Coverage, Al Caynes, Darren, and more!!
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Send us a text Episode 173: We are live at the Hobby Hangout in Melbourne! This episode we are mixing things up and interviewing hobbyists, store holders, and the host of the even Matthew Pain. Each interview will be 'Five Minutes of Fire' allowing guests to explore a topic they are passionate about. Featured on the show - Dom & Sauce from the 'Dou…
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Episode 172: Hobby Hangout Preparation, Adam's Ebay Nightmare, Luka Doncic, Ja Morant, Dyson Daniels, Allen Iverson, Chet Holmgren, Brandon Miller, Nikola Jokic
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Send us a text Thankyou to the Hobby Hangout AU for their on going support: Melbourne Hobby Hangout: 17th of November Click Here to buy your tickets Episode 172: We are running it back after just 3 days. This Sunday is the Hobby Hangout; so we won't be able to record, so we dropped this early! This week we chew through: - Adam has been working hard…
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Episode 171: Zaccharie Risacher, Cade Cunningham, WNBA Select, SGA, Dyson Daniels, GG Jackson, Jalen Brunson
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Send us a text Episode 171: The NBA is back, and we have a deep show to run through! Adam has been working hard on our YouTube channel; please Like, Subscribe and turn on Notifications! Join our YouTube Here! - Zion out indefinitely -Embiid fine - Embiid suspension; 3 games without pay - NBA standings: takeaways: 10 games in - Gregg Popovich illnes…
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Ep 2: Heir of Slytherin Design Thoughts
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We discuss what it was like designing our first Revival set, Heir of Slytherin! We discuss some of the iterations cards went through, our thought process behind the set as a whole, provide some insight into the design process, and share the pieces that helped to shape Revival. Visit our community pages! HPTCG Revival Website: https://harrypottertcg…
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Episode 170: Ingram vs Simons, Dwayne Wade, Russell's Top 10, Adam's Top 5, Banchero, Scottie Barnes,
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Send us a text Episode 170 Russell is back and Adam is primed to chat all things NBA. We chat through a range of topics - Brandon Ingram vs Anfernee Simons Aaleeyah Petty - wade statue reveal - Adam card vs card 1 Adam card vs card 2 - Russell's Top 10 - Adam's Top 5 - Banchero season so far, - Scottie Barnes injury - 2024 rookie class progress so …
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Ep 1: Pre-Tournament Talk Nov. 2024
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We discuss the upcoming November 2024 Revival tournament and our expectations and predictions of how the June 2024 ban and restricted list update and the set release of Goblet of Fire will impact the tournament. Visit our community pages! HPTCG Revival Website: https://harrypottertcg.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/harrypottertcg Disc…
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Episode 169: Adz is solo, the NBA is BACK! Plus some more Menedez Bros
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Send us a text Russell is on holiday so Adam has called an iso play and will be flying solo for the week. Breaking down the first week of NBA action, a new Menendez card surfaces PLUS some Player vs Player Thankyou to the Hobby Hangout AU for their on going support: Melbourne Hobby Hangout: 17th of November Click Here to buy your tickets Thankyou t…
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Episode 168: Oz National, Overreactions, Menedez Bros and MORE!!!
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Send us a text Sponsor PROMO: Fast Break Trading Cards Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. Adam and Russell are back from a busy weekend at the first ever Oz National, they talk about some pre-season overreactions, the rise in popularity of a 1990 Mark Jackson card plus much more!! Thankyou to the Hobby Hangout AU for …
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Episode 167: Robert Steinfeld Author of 3... 2...1... We're on the Air: An Inside Look at Sports Television, Journalism, and Gender Equity
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Send us a text Join Adam and Russell as they welcome ten-time Emmy-winning TV producer Robert Steinfeld to the show. This October, Robert releases his new book, "3... 2... 1... We're on the Air: An Inside Look at Sports Television, Journalism, and Gender Equity," which delves into his decades-long career in sports media. Filled with captivating sto…
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Episode 166: Western Conference Prospecting Preview
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Send us a text Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. New Sponsor: Fast Break Trading Cards: Adam and Russell go through every team in the Western conference and highlight key players who we think will impact the hobby market this year. We ran slightly long last week, so this week we will strictly do two players per team;…
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Episode 165: EMERGENCY PODCAST; Karl Anthony Towns and Julius Randle Trade
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Send us a text Adam and Russell break away from our normal broadcast time to fully break down the Karl Anthony Towns to New York and Julius Randle to the Wolves. We chat through salaries, team impacts and of course, card values. Jump in for this bonus episode!! Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. New Sponsor: Fast Brea…
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Episode 164: Eastern Conference Prospecting Preview
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Send us a text Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. New Sponsor: Fast Break Trading Cards: Adam and Russell go through every team in the Eastern conference and highlight key players who we think will impact the hobby market this year. The show has been very 'Comp' light the past month or so; and this Episode makes up fo…
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Episode 163: Laine Pearce, 130Point, The Hobby, Tales from The Nationals, PSA Submission
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Send us a text Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. New Sponsor: Fast Break Trading Cards: Episode 163 we have Australian Hobby royalty in the house. : Laine Pearce who revolutionised the ability to access sales data and create comps joins the show. We discuss - His recent trip to The Nationals, - Items he collected for…
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Episode 162: Australia Fanatics Victory over US Fanatics, 1/1 Topps Olympics, Mailbag, Wemby Black Label, Trae Young, Nikola Jokic, Topps Disney,
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Send us a text Use the promo code 'YCCT10' for 10% off all Fanatics Memorabilia. New Sponsor: Fast Break Trading Cards: Episode 162 delivering the business as per usual. Adam and Russell Smash through a bunch of topics this week: - Topps Disney breaking news - Statement from Fanatics - From 2025 Topps will now have Disney, Pixar and Marvel - Goldin…
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Episode 161: Wilt Chamberlain Sale, MJ Star Record Sale, Topps Olympics Update, Eminence, Topps Chrome vs Excalibur
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Send us a text Episode 161 delivering the business as per usual. Adam and Russell Smash through a bunch of topics this week: Topps Olympics YCCT Topps Olympics SCN Eminence recap Topps chrome vs Excalibur Wilt Chamberlain sale 1.7 million Jordan Star Rookie 1 million Gem Rate stats: most cards graded in a month Upper deck set review part 1 Upper de…
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Episode 160: Topps Chrome is here! Another Wembanyama 1/1 pulled, Spectra, Triple Auto Update and more
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Send us a text Send us a text Episode 160: Topps Chrome is here! Another Wembanyama 1/1 pulled, Spectra, Triple Auto Update and more Triple auto article Goldins pitch triple auto 1/1 on ebay Conversation piece: Card sale damaged card CC panini exclusive CT scanner rumours Breaking News: Wemby 1/1 auto been pulled topps chrome pricing comps Topps ch…
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Episode 159: Victor Wembanyama, Angel Reese, Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain, Steph Curry, Lebron James,
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Send us a text Episode 159: The hobby chat doesn't stop. - Micro Mosaic take that didn't age well: - Wemby Mania: Top 5 most expensive cards Slabstox trend; currently at 1k Wemby /5 psa 9 vs lebron james 2003 sp signature, psa 10, 10 auto How many Wembys can we grade? Kaboom 1/1 mosaic Wemby 1/1 select fastbreak NBA athletes taking ozempic Pick you…
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Episode 158: Offseason Buying, Topps Now, Mosaic, Excessive Case Hits, CGC,
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Send us a text Episode 158: It might be the offseason, but there is more than enough Hobby news to keep us warm. Kobe 1/1 Off season buying Topps Now and Parody Mosaic Basketball, Micro Case Hit 2/3 cases, Micro SCN, Micro Facebook, stained glass, Glitter 25 downtowns in one case, 2 dragons in one box Jordan beam team triple logoman 1/1 John stockt…
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2024 Topps Chrome Tennis PREVIEW | Biggest Cards To Chase
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2024 Topps Chrome Tennis releases on August 21, and we're breaking it LIVE from New York one day early on EARLY ACCESS on Fanatics Live. Buy break spots here: https://www.fanatics.live/shows/7abfd24f-3584-4ac3-93b6-2fba5dca54c7 Follow our shop here: https://fanatics.live/shops/slabstoxโดย SlabStox
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Episode 157: Topps Chrome, How Many Cards Graded? Resealed Exquisite, Box Scanning, GG Jackson, Top 10 Cards Week,
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Send us a text Episode 157: Russell and Adam are back to chat the hobby, we break down - How many cards have been graded? - Sourced from https://www.gemrate.com/player -First look at Topps chrome inserts - Shyne Opening resealed box - Where to get your boxes scanned - The GOAT - Who said this? - Russell's olympic moment - Summer league standouts: M…
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Episode 156: The Shaq & Kobe team-up with Shaqfoo32
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Send us a text Russell is on holiday, Adam has teamed up with friend of the show Shaqfoo32 for episode 156 where we chat about The Shaq and Kobe team up episode We reflect the graded players list from last week and focus in on Kobe and Shaq Best Shaq rookies on a budget Best Kobe rookies on a budget We also have some #Pocketchange to discuss Thank …
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Episode 155: Wemby SSP, Gemrate Grading Numbers, Flag Bearer Lebron
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Send us a text Russell and Adam welcome you to episode 155 where we chat about - Wemby SSPs courtesy of Gemrate - Gemrate Grading Stats - Wemby in the top 25 already - Lebron James to hold team USA flag - November, we will be back at the Hobby Hangout - More free agency moves Thank You to our sponsor: Check Out My Cards Australia and US Sports Card…
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Episode 154: Kawhi Leonard, Wemby Trends, HGA Restructure, Fanatics Selling Fake Cards, CT Scanning Flawless, MJ Downgrade, Hobby Inserts
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Send us a text Russell and Adam welcome you to episode 154 where we chat about - The adventures of Kawhi Leonard; - Wemby prices: - HGA Restructure - fanatics live policy update - What happens when you put Flawless cases into a CT scanner - Whose Boxscore is this? - Why was a 2 million dollar Jordan down graded? - Jordan hoops insert - Inserts in t…
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Episode 153: 6 MJ Autos, Caitlin Clark Gets Her Own Product, $2 Million theft
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Send us a text Welcome overbody to Episode 153 where you are safe from political assasination conspiracy theories and tanking Wander Franco PC stories. You will only hear here some cardboard related deliciousness. We start off with Caitlin Clark Blasters Caitlin Clark sales Other athletes with their own product. Huge 6 Jordan Autos story Jordan Car…
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Episode 152: Rod Adams from Neon Trading Cards
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Send us a text This episode we are joined by Rod Adams from Neon Trading Card and we discuss - Rod's early hobby memories and family ties. - Potential shill bidding in instant messenger threads - Comparison of collecting NBA to Soccer Find Rod breaking here: https://www.neontradingcards.com/ and a soccer group highly recommended for collectors from…
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Episode 151: Post Hobby Hangout, Wemby Nebula, PSA Vending Machine, Lebron Extension,
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Send us a text Episode 151 Adam and Russell reflect on the Hobby Hangout and share some listeners stories about the HH. For a recap, click here Hobby Hangout recap. We also discuss PSA vending machine in vegas Lebron extension Adam's boys extension PSA vs GEM grading company 1/1 choice nebula wemby pulled Walmart marketplace MJ eye catching sale Ja…
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The Final SlabStox Sundays x PWCC Auction Episode
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For the final SlabStox Sundays episode, Aaron and Julian give thanks to those that supported our show for over two years, and we talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #128. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards …
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Episode 150!! Live From The Hobby Hangout Melbourne: Al Caynes, Joo Foo, PSA Case Flow Lines, NBA Draft, Listener Questions, Mikal Bridges, Deni,
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Send us a text This episode is special for a few reasons! 1. Episode 150, 2. Live at The Hobby Hangout, 3. Specials Guests Joo Foo and Al Caynes. We break down a bunch of topics this week: NBA Draft Takes. - Q & A for Special: - Reference for Fanatics alleged 'management' of memorabilia. - Mikal Bridges Trade - Deni Trade - Wolves move up the board…
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Tonight's Auction Is LOADED With Rarity | PWCC #127
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #127. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 149: Celtics Win, Brown v Tatum, Giddey Traded, Pippen 1of1, Jumpman PMG
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Send us a text Episode 149 : The Finals are over & we have our champion. - Jaylen Brown gets MVP over Tatum; implications of this. - Luka vs Tatum vs brown SCN - Luka vs Tatum vs brown YCCT - Tatum 1/1 Kaboom - Stars age winning first chip, - Giddy trade Giddey card ladder - Olympics sponsorship: Will CC be named to the team. - Spicy P extension, S…
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Which 1/1 Rookie Would You Rather Buy? PWCC #126
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #126. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 148: NBA Finals special! Luka, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Porzingis, Jrue Holiday, White, Lively,
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Send us a text Episode 148 is our NBA Finals special! Since we last recorded games 1 to 4 have transpired and we broke down every game from the on the court perspective and the hobby impacts. Game 1;, Porzingis and Luka Game 2; Jayson Tatum, Jrue Holiday Rookie cards Brian Windhorst / Adam Amy Quote Game 3: Jerry West RIP, YCCT tribute Game 4: Porz…
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Midwest Monster Show Recap + PWCC Auction #125
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #125. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 147: Michael Jordan, Target cracking down, Anthony Edwards, Derrick Jones Jnr, Kobe Bryant, Caitlin Clark
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Send us a text Episode 147 as usual we have a full show! We will be live podcasting at the Melbourne Hobby Hangout! Get your tickets here: thehobbyhangout.com.au We run through: Jordan 1/1 highest ever sales price Lebron 1/1 2004 Finest Blue Super Fractor BGS 10 Luka 1/1 RPA Sale Kobe, Jordan, Lebron 1/1 Panini Flawless Triple Logoman LeBron James …
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Drafting The Best "Starting 5" on PWCC Auction #124
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Aaron, Julian and Manny talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #124. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https…
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Episode 146: Luka vs Tatum Finals,
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Send us a text Episode 146 is brimming with content! Finals talk, Kabooms, PMGs just to summarise. And oh yeah; we will be live podcasting at the Melbourne Hobby Hangout! Get your tickets here: thehobbyhangout.com.au - Luka vs Tatum - Luka price check: - Dallas trades - Luka Kaboom 1/1 - Flawless 1/1 triple logo - Exquisite 1/1 Jordan, Kobe and Leb…
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Basketball Rookies ON FIRE On PWCC Auction #123
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #123. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 145: Jordan Fleer vs Star, GemRate Iconic Cards, All NBA, Anthony Edwards, Luka Doncic, PMG
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Send us a text Episode 145: Adam and Russell breakdown - Sale of Star PSA 9 Jordan Rookie 927k - Fleer: PSA 9 $17k, PSA 10 $168k - Fleer vs Star: SCN, Fleer vs Star: YCCT - Gem Rate Iconic Card Tracker - All NBA teams - Wolves defeated Nuggets: in a classic game 7. - west finals matchup wolves vs Mavs - Wemby base PSA 10 price check - 1st rookie to…
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The BEST Budget Buys Under $50 On PWCC Auction #122!
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #122. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 144: Anthony Edwards, Gamestop, Kaboom vs Blank Slate, Aaron Gordon, Amen Thompson, James Worthy, Wemby
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Send us a text Episode 144: Adam and Russell breakdown - Card Holder upgrade and Newton's rings - Anthony Edwards, Blue rookie - Gamestop now accepting cards Kaboom vs blank slate, Kaboom vs blank #2, Kaboom vs blank Instagram This weeks show is focused on the prospect remaining in this year's playoffs Christian Braun, Aaron Gordon Amen Thompson vs…
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Episode 143: Jokic 3x MVP, Anthony Edwards, Playoffs Review, Wemby, Stupidest Thing I've Ever Heard
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Send us a text Welcome back to this weeks show, Adam and Russell breakdown Nikola Jokic's MVP voting breakdown, Silver PSA 10 review, and NT RPA /99 PSA 10 breakdown. World summary of MVP winners and all time the Players with 3 MVPs. - Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards Card Ladder, 1/1 sale, 2022 Bl…
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Mother's Day Special! Top Cards Ending In PWCC #121
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #121. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Breaking Down 2024 Bowman Checklist W/ Down On The Farm | PWCC #120
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #120. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 142: Fanatics announcement, Is Blez Lucky or Smart? Giannis vs Jokic, Crown Royale, Select Checklist,
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Send us a text Welcome back to this weeks show, Adam and Russell breakdown Topps announcement of unlicensed NBA, and licensed in October 2025. We ask the question Was Blez Lucky or smart? Blez calculated there is 1200 cases, estimated there is 85 cases left, Blez offers 250k + 30k auto card for Ant man Jokic vs Giannis Crown Royale: Part 2 and nice…
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EXCLUSIVE: Topps Industry Conference Product Development (2024/25)
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Last night on our Fanatics Live stream, we shared all of the important product development information from the 2024 Topps Industry Conference. This is the audio from the live-stream. Thank you everyone for the support and we hope you enjoy!โดย SlabStox
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The Top High-End Rookie Debates Ending In PWCC #119
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #119. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 141: Playoffs, Naz Reid, Steph Curry, Crown Royale, Kabooms, Tim Duncan, Tyrese Maxey,
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Send us a text Adam and Russell have more content story lines than they can handle this week; but we discuss the NBA playoffs: - Regular season awards, - Crown Royale Preview - Anthony Edwards vs KD - Fake Wembys: how to tell the difference - Jaime Jaquez vs Anfernee Simons: - Tom Brady meet and greet sheet - Prizm Fastbreak - Part 2 of a Flawless …
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NBA Playoffs Leads To Huge Cards On Auction | PWCC #118
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Aaron and Julian talk about the cards ending in the PWCC Weekly Auction #118. Bid on cards in the PWCC Weekly Auction: https://pwccmarketplace.pxf.io/q4B46n Sign-up for The Daily Slab newsletter: https://www.slabstox.com Grade your cards with SlabStox x SGC Grading: https://www.slabstox.com/grading Create your Card Ladder account here: https://app.…
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Episode 140: Play In Games, End of a Dynasty? Caitlyn Clark, Jontay Porter Banned
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Send us a text The playoffs are around the corner and Adam and Russell have a lot to discuss NBA Play In: Sacramento Eliminated Warriors: Fox vs Klay Thompson Lakers defeated Pels: Zion Williamson injured Sixers defeated Miami - Butler Injured Embiid vs Jimmy Butler Bulls defeat Hawks Version 2.1 All Star Voting break down Jontay Porter Lifetime Ba…
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